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Ajescent said:
vitoxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx said:
For a long time, Wesker couldn't fathom Spencer's true goal.
He had said that his superfluous capital investment into Bio Organic Weapons (B.O.W.) was abnormal.
Originally, the merit of a biological weapon was that it could be developed cheaply.
Thinking about combined use with a normal weapon system, extreme B.O.W. development was so far unnecessary.
Why did he persist in B.O.W.s?
In order to search for the answer, Wesker placed himself in the Umbrella Intelligence Department.

The question came to flare up in his head again.
For the answer to the question, Wesker searched for Spencer's whereabouts.
However, after Umbrella's collapse, Spencer had disappeared from the limelight and became missing.
He used everything he had.
Wesker used all of his organization's power, money and time, and finally discovered Spencer's location.

On an early autumn night of ceaseless thunder, Wesker visited Spencer in an old European castle.
When he caught sight of Wesker, Spencer considered whether to be surprised, and shone a dark joy underneath his shriveled eye sockets.

"You've returned......"

Spencer's laugh was mixed with dry coughs.

Again, Wesker was unable to measure this old man's true intentions.
He had experienced this feeling many times since the time he was in Umbrella.
A sticky presence emanated heavily from the old man with a feeble body like a withered branch.
The power of an absolute, engulfing goal had danced in the palm of his hand.
This was the true nature of his biggest discomfort, the nemesis he had irritated himself with.
Spencer began to talk as if he had detected it inside.

Bio Organic Weapons development was only a means for allowing him to accomplish his true goal.
His true goal was the forced evolution of the human race by means of a virus.
The end of Homo sapiens who had lasted 200,000 years, and the birth of a neogenetic humanity.
His true goal was to create a Utopia by and with the new humanity, and to become a God there.

There were three things he required to realize this distorted ideal.

Firstly, "Progenitor Virus".
Without the Progenitor Virus, his Utopian creation was only a dream for him.
The Progenitor Virus's existence dragged that dream into the real world.

Secondly, "Umbrella"
Development for weapon application purposes was perfect to advance his research of the Progenitor Virus without his true intentions being realized by anyone.
Therefore, profits obtained by Umbrella were merely secondary for him.

And the third was "Wesker".
The Utopia that Spencer envisioned.
The people living there must be ideal humans.
Then, what was the ideal human?

A nascent humanity whose evolution was prompted by the Progenitor Virus.
That was the main premise, of course.
However, what happens if a person whose evolution is prompted is a man who doesn't comply with his own will?

Even if they evolved and obtained superhuman bodies and intelligence, the person's knowledge, morality and common sense wouldn't change.
Suppose lazy and incompetent people were chosen as reborn humans, what would happen?
They would become a stain polluting his Utopia, which never falls.
It was a situation that must surely be avoided.

Therefore, Spencer decided to carry out a single plan.

The plan was called the "Wesker Project", after the name of the chief researcher.

Along the plan, several hundred children were gathered from every race around the world.
They were children born from parents full of accomplishments.
He thought that if he couldn't change their knowledge, morality and common sense, he should give them the things he hoped for from the beginning.

Each was given the name of "Wesker", and the gathered children were set free around the world.
Naturally, extreme surveillance was attached without them noticing.
Their fields were different, but each would grow up in an environment where they received the best education.

Several years later, a single particularly excellent and approved young man was sent to the "Umbrella Executive Training School" in Raccoon City.
It was the Wesker given the name of "Albert".

Albert Wesker's subsequent actions pleased Spencer.
He was able to tell that this Wesker had sufficiently met the standards of his nascent humanity.
Moreover, the same might have been said for the other Weskers.

Therefore, Spencer decided to push the plan forward to the next stage.
He decided to administer an experimental stage virus to all the Weskers.

This was a "screening", so to speak, to ascertain the truly excellent Weskers.
Some would be forcibly administered the experimental stage virus as part of their treatment, others on the recommendation of close friends.

Naturally, Albert Wesker was no exception either.
He received the experimental stage virus from his rival William Birkin and administered it by his own hand for a plot.

It may be said that the result of this "screening" was too severe.
Almost all Weskers died, and only a few survived.
One of the survivors, Albert Wesker, disappeared somewhere.

It was "Spencer's presence".

That was the true figure of the uneasiness Wesker had continued to feel.
Wesker wasn't interested in Spencer, his curiosity was programmed.
And in accordance with Spencer's expectations, Wesker returned.

However, Spencer had only one miscalculation.
The safeguard kept in the depths of Wesker's psyche was effective only because he was a mystery.
There was no reason for Wesker to be quietly bound by it if he understood his true nature.
Furthermore, he had grown old and was an old man all the more close to death.

"God...... I see. I will take over"

With those words, Wesker cut his chains himself.

Was it mere chance that his former subordinates Chris Redfield and Jill Valentine delved in?
Wesker thought of it as a revelation.
The Homo sapiens who had interfered with his own plans many times.

It seemed that there was definitely still room for evolution.

Wesker murmured in his heart.

Wesker, who survived that place, took funds, research results and viruses using a position he gained in a certain pharmaceutical company, and crept underground again.
To carry out the veritable "Uroboros Project", he began to ascend the steps to become a next-generation God.

Thanks for that, that's very helpful though I'm wondering. Aren't Spencer and Wesker both not around anymore? If that's the case, what's the excuse now? I mean if either are still around, surely they can see that the sub humans (I'm arguing that the Zombs are inferior to Humans) out number the Humans who also out number the supers, in my opinion, it's about time someone raised their hand up and say "okay, this is enough now, time to hit the reset button."


they both died, so did Umbrella.

At the time of RE6 Umbrella's been dead for 10 years, all those attacks are from bio-terrorist acting on there own.



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vitoxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx said:

they both died, so did Umbrella.

At the time of RE6 Umbrella's been dead for 10 years, all those attacks are from bio-terrorist acting on there own.


That's amazing! The world has gone to hell, yet there are terroists still fighting? wow...



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The world hasn't gone to shit...yet.

They are more bio-attacks sure but the world hasn't been lost.



vitoxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx said:
The world hasn't gone to shit...yet.

They are more bio-attacks sure but the world hasn't been lost.

In RE 1 and 2, you were confind to Raccoon City weren't you? Now it's all over the world, if it hasn't gone, it's getting there.

My point is: Are people waiting for the WHOLE world to be infected before calling "time" on all of this? 

IMO When Raccoon City went down the pan, that should have been clue enough for everyone to draw the line. 

But because Wesker and Spencer were in charge, I can see why that didn't happen. 

Now that they are both gone, I'm not sure why everyone is still trying to escalate things.



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leatherhat said:
Oswald Spencer wanted to become a God like entity using Umbrella's creations. That ambition got transferred to Wesker. At least this is RE5s explanation of everything. I prefer to think that they just created too many bioweapons at once, all of which backfired.

Parallel lines of research. Also virus can and do mutate so once they engineered one strain, it could be spawning new variations on its own which they again study and mess with and then new outbreaks. At least the game plots make a little more sense than the movie plots.



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Aielyn said:
RedInker said:
A Resident Evil game based on a cure would be pretty boring. Chris Redfield sets up a clinic while Jill gives the paitent the cure. Still, it could be better than RE5.

Done right, an RE game about the cure would work very well.

Picture it. The first half of the game involves bringing together what you need for the cure - that means certain surviving experts (who need to be saved from zombies), certain substances (herbs, chemicals, etc) needed for the cure, samples of the various viruses, and even some test subjects.

This gives motivation for a broad variation of locations and designs for the game, and allows return to a number of locations from past games. And during this sequence, it plays a lot like the regular Resident Evil games.

The next quarter of the game would involve having to actually test the cure on a reasonable scale, starting with tests on individual zombies, with the major test being what happens to a boss-type zombie. During this part of the game, instead of guns, you actually have a cure delivery system of some sort (probably like a tranquiliser gun). This would actually add extra suspense to the game, because the cure wouldn't be instantaneous, so you'd still have to defend yourself while it's working, and of course, killing the ones you've given the cure to would kind of defeat the purpose.

The final quarter of the game would then be worldwide distribution. That means gaining access to certain key locations in order to install the cure into some forms of distribution system. Presumably, there would be some zombies that are too dangerous, and not affected by the cure, that would also need to be killed along the way, thereby allowing the game to mix up the cure-style dynamics with the kill-style dynamics.

Not only would it make for an interesting story, but it would also enable some innovative gameplay elements. Of course, that's just one way to formulate such a game. I'm sure others have better ideas.

Ship it.



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To use the bathroom in Resident Evil, you have to solve some crazy riddle, put two halves of a statue together, find the red gem in the eye of a stuffed moose head, and use the crank with the triangle on the end. Chris Redfield punched a boulder. Barry is legally allowed to carry a gun.

THIS is what you never understood about Resident Evil games!?



WiiBox3 said:
MrBubbles said:
i never understood why the controls always had to be so terrible


The controls in everything pre-RE4 had to do with the camera. Since the camera would be fixed in weird angles, they need to make it so when you were moving in one direction and you moved into the view of another camera from a totally different angle, you didn't start walking a different direction. That's why up moves your character forward no matter which direction he/she is facing. It takes a while to get use to, but once you do, it is probably the best control scheme for the camera situation.


Except Final Fantasy never had this problem and they used per-rendered backgrounds, same with Onimusha.  They just followed that bad Tomb Raider controls that everyone at the time thought was good.  It just took 5 games for them to change it.



I admit that I like Resident Evil best when it's campy as Hell and not taking itself too seriously (RE1 and especially RE4). I haven't played the RE6 demo yet but it seems to be taking itself very seriously, which is kind of worrisome for me.



Ajescent said:

Why are Umbrella (or anyone else for that matter) still developing deadlier viruses?

With a stupid amount of the world's population by the T-Virus or a veriant of it, maybe it's time someone said "okay...you know what? Maybe we should really stop this."

What exactly is the endgame they are hoping for? I'm gonna say it stopped being about money a long time ago because the world is just too screwed up. But yet, they keep going, what's the deal?

The Umbrella Corporation went bankrupt in RE4. 

But assuming this is pre RE4 they were developing viruses with the idea of selling bioweapons to any governments that would bid the highest price for them. The intentions of the bioweapons were for infecting rebel groups of a volatile country, small groups that caused their governments trouble. Small infections that could be easily wiped out by a Elite Squad at a later time and claim the small outbreak was the work of some other unnamed party. 

The idea was money. Make bioweapons and sell them to countries who were engulfed in civil war. 



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