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Soleron on 31 July 2012
leatherhat said:
Soleron said:
leatherhat said:

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It just sums up everything perfectly. The west is going through a perpetual adolescent and bronies are a symptom of that disease. 

Even if you are right, how is watching a television show for children a bad thing?

Its Peter Pan syndrome, and it drips into every facet of life

So you don't have an objection to the show but instead to the whole structure of society today? Good luck with that but insulting people via the internet won't help.

The world is not worse than it has ever been, it just looks like it because of 24 hour news and short memories.



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Mr Khan on 31 July 2012
leatherhat said:
Soleron said:
leatherhat said:

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It just sums up everything perfectly. The west is going through a perpetual adolescent and bronies are a symptom of that disease. 

Even if you are right, how is watching a television show for children a bad thing?

Its Peter Pan syndrome, and it drips into every facet of life

But what is wrong with Peter Pan Syndrome? So long as those who desire to retain the joys of youth do not actually shirk the responsibilities of adulthood (and employment figures for bronies point to that not being a problem), it can only be a good idea that we all retain that nature.



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Chris Hu on 31 July 2012
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Chris Hu said:
Mr Khan said:
d21lewis said:
As a child of the 80's, I remember cartoons being much better than anything you guys have today.....but then I looked at youtube. I watched some of the old shows I watched as a kid on Netflix. You know what? Cartoons are pretty darn good, these days. There's a lot of good stuff out there, depending on what you're looking for. Even though My Little Pony isn't for me, I still can't imagine why it would appeal to a lot of other adult males. There's just too much out there. I will stand by that belief but who knows? Maybe I'll sit down and watch it with my kid some day.

Enjoy your pony cartoon, guys.

Replying to a post 1 month after the fact ftw, but

The 80s was a bad time for animation. The 70s was the real low-point, with most of it being mass-produced low-budget Hannah-Barbara cartoons and the Dark Age of Disney, but Disney was poor through most of the 80s as well, and the great 80s cartoons often don't stand on their own two feet (that is, are not good except through nostalgia-vision. Exceptions might be Thundarr the Barbarian and Thundercats). The 90s was where it was at for American animation, when Disney came roaring back (before they got stuck on the notion of CGing everything like everyone else who does animated movies now), and with Nickeolodeon, Cartoon Network, Disney, and Warner Brothers all producing at least a dozen classic series a piece, stuff that really was more timelessly good.

Then of course came the 2000s, when Disney and Nick switched focus to live action tweeny comedies, and Cartoon Network slumped (with the darkest days there being 2009 with CN Real, yikes).

Now it seems things are slowly healing.

Anyway, this post has no point.

Never heard of Thundarr the Babarian before, I'm familiar with Thundercats.  I grew up as a kid in Germany in the late 70's and early 80's.  They didn't show armerican cartoons much execpt for classic Disney, Looney Tunes and Hanna Babara (Tom and Jerry) shorts.  They mostly showed anime shows that where mainly made for the European market like Vicky the Viking, Maya the Bee, Pinocchio, Captain Future, Heidi, 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother, and The Wonderful Adventures of Nils.


And don't forget Grendizer, Great Mazinger and , , Lamù (Lum/Urusei Yatsura),, , Hello Spank!, Gundam and many other Japanese great animes, and amongst the European, the Italian Grisù the firefighter dragon, the Swedish Agathon Sax, the Yugoslavian Professor Baltazar and amongst the American, besides the older classics, also the Pink Panther and Mr Magoo, both of which still had new episodes produced during the '70s. And many othes! While US TV cartoons were in decline, with few exceptions, compared to the previous American golden age, it was a golden age for Japan and a decent period for the rest of the world.

Don't remember any of the shows you mentioned.  Except I do remember the Pink Panther cartoons I'm pretty sure they where show on German TV.  I don't thing any of the mecha animes you mentioned where shown on German TV.  But I vaguely remember seeing mecha related merchandise when I vacationed in Italy as a kid.



Player2 on 31 July 2012
Mr Khan said:
d21lewis said:
As a child of the 80's, I remember cartoons being much better than anything you guys have today.....but then I looked at youtube. I watched some of the old shows I watched as a kid on Netflix. You know what? Cartoons are pretty darn good, these days. There's a lot of good stuff out there, depending on what you're looking for. Even though My Little Pony isn't for me, I still can't imagine why it would appeal to a lot of other adult males. There's just too much out there. I will stand by that belief but who knows? Maybe I'll sit down and watch it with my kid some day.

Enjoy your pony cartoon, guys.

Replying to a post 1 month after the fact ftw, but

The 80s was a bad time for animation. The 70s was the real low-point, with most of it being mass-produced low-budget Hannah-Barbara cartoons and the Dark Age of Disney, but Disney was poor through most of the 80s as well, and the great 80s cartoons often don't stand on their own two feet (that is, are not good except through nostalgia-vision. Exceptions might be Thundarr the Barbarian and Thundercats). The 90s was where it was at for American animation, when Disney came roaring back (before they got stuck on the notion of CGing everything like everyone else who does animated movies now), and with Nickeolodeon, Cartoon Network, Disney, and Warner Brothers all producing at least a dozen classic series a piece, stuff that really was more timelessly good.

Then of course came the 2000s, when Disney and Nick switched focus to live action tweeny comedies, and Cartoon Network slumped (with the darkest days there being 2009 with CN Real, yikes).

Now it seems things are slowly healing.

Anyway, this post has no point.

Silverhawks and Galaxy Rangers aren't exceptions? (just asking)

The 80's are part of Japan's golden age of anime. Urusei Yatsura, Saint Seiya, Captain Tsubasa, Hokuto no Ken, Dragon Ball, Touch!, Macross, Dash! Kappei... all of them are great.

Sure, the animes of today look better, but the epicness of the battles in Hokuto no Ken, Rurouni Kenshin and Saint Seiya are unmatched. Of the newer animes I've watched only some scenes of Gurren Lagann can compare with those. And good luck finding an anime with better music than Saint Seiya or Captain Tsubasa.



Alby_da_Wolf on 31 July 2012
Chris Hu said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Chris Hu said:
Mr Khan said:
d21lewis said:
As a child of the 80's, I remember cartoons being much better than anything you guys have today.....but then I looked at youtube. I watched some of the old shows I watched as a kid on Netflix. You know what? Cartoons are pretty darn good, these days. There's a lot of good stuff out there, depending on what you're looking for. Even though My Little Pony isn't for me, I still can't imagine why it would appeal to a lot of other adult males. There's just too much out there. I will stand by that belief but who knows? Maybe I'll sit down and watch it with my kid some day.

Enjoy your pony cartoon, guys.

Replying to a post 1 month after the fact ftw, but

The 80s was a bad time for animation. The 70s was the real low-point, with most of it being mass-produced low-budget Hannah-Barbara cartoons and the Dark Age of Disney, but Disney was poor through most of the 80s as well, and the great 80s cartoons often don't stand on their own two feet (that is, are not good except through nostalgia-vision. Exceptions might be Thundarr the Barbarian and Thundercats). The 90s was where it was at for American animation, when Disney came roaring back (before they got stuck on the notion of CGing everything like everyone else who does animated movies now), and with Nickeolodeon, Cartoon Network, Disney, and Warner Brothers all producing at least a dozen classic series a piece, stuff that really was more timelessly good.

Then of course came the 2000s, when Disney and Nick switched focus to live action tweeny comedies, and Cartoon Network slumped (with the darkest days there being 2009 with CN Real, yikes).

Now it seems things are slowly healing.

Anyway, this post has no point.

Never heard of Thundarr the Babarian before, I'm familiar with Thundercats.  I grew up as a kid in Germany in the late 70's and early 80's.  They didn't show armerican cartoons much execpt for classic Disney, Looney Tunes and Hanna Babara (Tom and Jerry) shorts.  They mostly showed anime shows that where mainly made for the European market like Vicky the Viking, Maya the Bee, Pinocchio, Captain Future, Heidi, 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother, and The Wonderful Adventures of Nils.


And don't forget Grendizer, Great Mazinger and , , Lamù (Lum/Urusei Yatsura),, , Hello Spank!, Gundam and many other Japanese great animes, and amongst the European, the Italian Grisù the firefighter dragon, the Swedish Agathon Sax, the Yugoslavian Professor Baltazar and amongst the American, besides the older classics, also the Pink Panther and Mr Magoo, both of which still had new episodes produced during the '70s. And many othes! While US TV cartoons were in decline, with few exceptions, compared to the previous American golden age, it was a golden age for Japan and a decent period for the rest of the world.

Don't remember any of the shows you mentioned.  Except I do remember the Pink Panther cartoons I'm pretty sure they where show on German TV.  I don't thing any of the mecha animes you mentioned where shown on German TV.  But I vaguely remember seeing mecha related merchandise when I vacationed in Italy as a kid.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that in that period it happened the liberalization of TVs in Italy and the first explosion of private TVs, state TV broadcasted some of them and private TVs followed suit and jumped into the huge offer (and early '70s backlog) of Japanese anime.
Also, maybe some of them had a different tilte in Germany or possibly arrived in different periods. For example I just read on Wikipedia that Hello Spank! was Hallo! Kurt in Germany. No mechas at all in Germany? This sux, sorry for your mechaless childhood!   



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Mr Khan on 31 July 2012
Player2 said:
Mr Khan said:

Replying to a post 1 month after the fact ftw, but

The 80s was a bad time for animation. The 70s was the real low-point, with most of it being mass-produced low-budget Hannah-Barbara cartoons and the Dark Age of Disney, but Disney was poor through most of the 80s as well, and the great 80s cartoons often don't stand on their own two feet (that is, are not good except through nostalgia-vision. Exceptions might be Thundarr the Barbarian and Thundercats). The 90s was where it was at for American animation, when Disney came roaring back (before they got stuck on the notion of CGing everything like everyone else who does animated movies now), and with Nickeolodeon, Cartoon Network, Disney, and Warner Brothers all producing at least a dozen classic series a piece, stuff that really was more timelessly good.

Then of course came the 2000s, when Disney and Nick switched focus to live action tweeny comedies, and Cartoon Network slumped (with the darkest days there being 2009 with CN Real, yikes).

Now it seems things are slowly healing.

Anyway, this post has no point.

Silverhawks and Galaxy Rangers aren't exceptions? (just asking)

The 80's are part of Japan's golden age of anime. Urusei Yatsura, Saint Seiya, Captain Tsubasa, Hokuto no Ken, Dragon Ball, Touch!, Macross, Dash! Kappei... all of them are great.

Sure, the animes of today look better, but the epicness of the battles in Hokuto no Ken, Rurouni Kenshin and Saint Seiya are unmatched. Of the newer animes I've watched only some scenes of Gurren Lagann can compare with those. And good luck finding an anime with better music than Saint Seiya or Captain Tsubasa

I meant strictly in terms of American animation. Anime has followed a different flow of ups and downs where the 80s were indeed a strong period, and I am noted amongst my friends for my supposed poor taste in anime (hurrah for Queens Blade!) so i can be less objective on that front.



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Salnax on 31 July 2012
leatherhat said:
Soleron said:
leatherhat said:
Manchildren

You could try, well, reading some of the thread first. Just how is that post meant to be constructive?


It just sums up everything perfectly. The west is going through a perpetual adolescent and video gamers are a symptom of that disease. 

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