I can't see how anyone can be on MS' side on this one. If they are using patented technology, they need to pay for it. They demand the same of other companies.

No see, every company uses patents from everyone else - but motorola's demands are ridiculous, that's the point. Microsoft is willing to pay, but what Motorola wants is extortion.

Companies have a right to value their technology at what they feel is appropriate.  If MS doesn't want to pay, they have to either find another solution, or remove the feature from their product.  They can't just say "you are asking too much, so we are going to steal it"

What the above user said basically. They cant juststeal Motorolas tech, if they dont wanna pay then they should stop using them.

Well, let's take a moment to consider how things work in the real world. First of all, you can't charge whatever you want.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_non-discriminatory_licensing

Otherwise, a company with an absolutely critical patent could simply bankrupt it's competitors. Microsoft has numerous patents used in Android phones, but they only receive a few dollars(around 1%-2%) per phone sold.

But how do these patented things end up in their products? Well, you're an engineer, creating this hardware, and maybe you design a peice of a system that happens to be fairly similar to something Motorola has made - even though you made it, it's patent infringement, and it may not be discovered until later. Or maybe it's a critical decoding technology that you, as a designer include, knowing it's critical. Are you, the designer responsible for haggling over licensing rights? Nope, that's someone elses job. There could be a disconnect, or miscommunication, but in such complicated technology, there can be peices that are never dealt with via the proper channels. Then someone like Motorola finds out, and rather than doing what most businesses do ("Here's what this patent is worth, pay X"), motorola is going the extortion route ("It'd be a shame if you're system was to... you know... break... pay 20*X")

*facepalm*

How many times do the FRAND terms that Motorola agreed to have to be explained?

Did MS kill some of your dogs or something that you can't see past your own nose?

M$ just should pay
As if they had money problems - They also can't afford to lose the US as a market and Motorola/Google knows that too.
They have the leverage(i think this is the word) to ask for anything they want.Without the USA the 360 is dead.
Without the USA the 360 won't sell anything compared to the buddies of google aka Sonys PS3.
They need the sales of the yearly Call of Duty and Halo Special Editions

No, but a lawsuit is a lawsuit. It comes down to what the judge chooses, that's the end of it. If MS want to hear the end of it, they'll pay.

This doesn't fall into anti-trust behavior because motorla does not have OS or game  console prices.

This is also noa critical piece of the 360.  It is video decoding technology.  If you removed it, you would still have a game machine.  The patent use is to add features to the 360 to give it a competative advantage.  Take that away and the console does not cease to function.  They will simply lose the feature.  If they want to keep the feature, they must develop their own technology, or pay motorola.

some of you people....smh...cause there must be something wrong with some of yours.


microsoft wishes to license the patents, but motorolas pricing is whack. imagine being in a grocery store and picking up a 1dollar chocolate bar and you havent eaten all day, so you eat it while walking around. then you get to the cashier and she tells you that the 1 dollar chocolate bar is $10...but just for you...cause she doesnt like the look of you.

motorola is the one that doesnt want to pay for the microsoft patents that are being infringed.