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dr3b on 14 June 2012
happydolphin said:
dr3b said:
Good for people that don't want it, but in effect adds $60 to the price tagor people who do. So instead of getting the WiiU for $300 and thinking that it wasn't a bad price many will in fact be paying $360 which is more than alot of people have said the want to spend.

That and Nintendo could buy 10 million of them and get a much better price and pass it on to us.

Then again Western Digital can sell in the hundreds of millions of them and reduce prod costs even more powerfully.

Also, comparing WiiU to another gen 8 console, 360$ will be an excellent price for digital buyers, 300 an even better price for retail buyers. Add to the fact that you can use any existing External HD laying around at home and you could even save money.

All good points, I guess I would rather just have it built in to save a little bit of clutter. Chances are that Nintendo would prob buy their HHD's from WD if they were going to include one, which is what I meant in their ability to get a better price. Regardless I am still looking forward to what Ninty will be able to do with the WiiU.



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Andrespetmonkey on 14 June 2012
crissindahouse said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
Although I would prefer a HDD, it isn't a necessity. From what I understand, a portable HD or SD cards are either cheap, or free as you've already got them ;P Personally I don't have a portable HD or big SD cards, so it's a small issue, but nothing major. It's a problem on the scale of sixaxis lacking rumble... i.e hardly a problem.

yeah but even if you have to purchase an extra hdd it won't cost you more than you would have to pay extra for the same storage build in the wii u. wii u would cost minimum 50 bucks more with 350gb or so. and you can always use the other hdd for other things as well then if you want. i know 1.5gb external hdd cost 109€ atm on german amazon (which doesn't have to be the cheapest), for 50 you will get easily 350gb.


A 1.5GB external HDD eh? lol

Yup, I know that argument, and whilst it's a good one I would still prefer to pay an extra £20-40 for a HDD in the Wii U, it's just more convenient for me. But like I said, no big deal.

If the way external storage can be used is straight-forward, and if it can be organized as well as files on a PC or PS360, then it is probably better than having built in storage.



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maverick40 on 14 June 2012
happydolphin said:
Arcturus said:
Has Nintendo confirmed that any external HDD will be compatible?

Yah!
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/30582

So if people want to get DLC for a game, they have to buy an external hard drive too?



Conegamer on 14 June 2012

Nintendo denied the HDD, but confirmed the flash memory. 512MB of flash memory was enough on the Wii for all of your save data, a large number of channels and VC games, and even a few Wii Shop Channel games.

I think 16x that amount will be enough for most people, and for everyone else, there's SD cards/ the ability to add a HDD. Again, this seems like a non-issue which people are blowing out of proportion to make Nintendo look bad before the launch of a new console, which seems to be the 'in' thing ATM...



 

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Conegamer on 14 June 2012
maverick40 said:
happydolphin said:
Arcturus said:
Has Nintendo confirmed that any external HDD will be compatible?

Yah!
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/30582

So if people want to get DLC for a game, they have to buy an external hard drive too?

We don't know this yet. It's possible it'll all fit neatly onto the 8GB Flash memory, or if an SD card is included (like the 3DS).

All we know is, the option is there for those who want it.



 

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Arcturus on 14 June 2012
happydolphin said:
Arcturus said:
Has Nintendo confirmed that any external HDD will be compatible?

Yah!
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/30582

Thanks.

It's not that big of an issue, as long as you can run your games, DLC, and patches directly from the external HDD.



crissindahouse on 14 June 2012
Andrespetmonkey said:
crissindahouse said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
Although I would prefer a HDD, it isn't a necessity. From what I understand, a portable HD or SD cards are either cheap, or free as you've already got them ;P Personally I don't have a portable HD or big SD cards, so it's a small issue, but nothing major. It's a problem on the scale of sixaxis lacking rumble... i.e hardly a problem.

yeah but even if you have to purchase an extra hdd it won't cost you more than you would have to pay extra for the same storage build in the wii u. wii u would cost minimum 50 bucks more with 350gb or so. and you can always use the other hdd for other things as well then if you want. i know 1.5gb external hdd cost 109€ atm on german amazon (which doesn't have to be the cheapest), for 50 you will get easily 350gb.


A 1.5GB external HDD eh? lol

Yup, I know that argument, and whilst it's a good one I would still prefer to pay an extra £20-40 for a HDD in the Wii U, it's just more convenient for me. But like I said, no big deal.

If the way external storage can be used is straight-forward, and if it can be organized as well as files on a PC or PS360, then it is probably better than having built in storage.

sure that's why i said it would be better to have a console with and one without in my other post, like the 360 just with a great hdd and not an own ass format. i would never have bought the 360 with hdd if i could have used another one in 2005. but if they only make all consoles with or all without hdd, i think without is the much better way for most because many don't even have to buy a new one and the rest, ok they have to buy one^^



siavm on 14 June 2012
kitler53 said:
RolStoppable said:
kitler53 said:

exteranal confirmed.

the real questions are ... for the more casual user that won't be particually aware of dlc or downloadables ect, will the internal storage be enought for saves and patches?

and .. will the external drive be handled elegantly where any data there will be seen by the wii U or will it be like the "SD card channel" on the wii where i had to constantly move content back and forth to be seen by the actual wii system?

if yes and yes than it's all good.  if no or no then fuck you nintnedo.

If the more casual users aren't aware of or don't care much about online functionality, it's highly unlikely that they will ever fill up 8GB in the first place. Most game saves don't exceed a few MB.

The Wii can load downloaded games from the SD card since a long time.

that is true if the entire game was on the SD card.

..but it couldn't "see" the dlc i downloaded for Samba (disc based) when it was on the SD card.  that was required to be on the actual wii system to be played.  as a "core" or "dedicated" or "hobbyst" or whatever gamer you want to call me ... i have waay more than 8 Gb of dlc and patches.  i don't want to have to shift that data to play a game due to only 8 Gb of "useable" data.  so as long as the wii U can read directly from the external it's all good and i would have no complaints.

They fixed this with 3ds. All 3ds dlc (minus dsiware) are saved to the sd card. I don't know how the menu will be but it will not be like the wii. Y



Aielyn on 14 June 2012

It's a simple solution to the problem that the 360 and PS3 suffered - 10 different configurations of the console, depending on when you bought it, including 2-3 different configurations at any point in time.

Instead, the Wii U will be the same basic configuration irrespective of when you buy it, but you can connect any HDD you want. Since the HDD is market price, and independent of the system, it becomes trivial for people to buy, say, a 160 GB HDD, and not cause any problems. And the consumer wins, because market forces apply to regular HDDs, whereas specialised HDDs (like the PS3 and 360 use) are controlled by Sony and MS, and thus are not subject to market forces.



Arcturus on 14 June 2012
Aielyn said:
It's a simple solution to the problem that the 360 and PS3 suffered - 10 different configurations of the console, depending on when you bought it, including 2-3 different configurations at any point in time.

Instead, the Wii U will be the same basic configuration irrespective of when you buy it, but you can connect any HDD you want. Since the HDD is market price, and independent of the system, it becomes trivial for people to buy, say, a 160 GB HDD, and not cause any problems. And the consumer wins, because market forces apply to regular HDDs, whereas specialised HDDs (like the PS3 and 360 use) are controlled by Sony and MS, and thus are not subject to market forces.

Sony doesn't use specialized HDDs. Any 2.5" HDD can be purchased and installed into your PS3.