Got to agree with badgenome, it was not a big push for core gamers at all, a big push would of been to show they have an online infrastructure that will work, thats its going to be easy to add friends and communicate with them, that these games are gonna launch day and date with the other platforms and at the very least be running in a higher resolution.

Saying us too on multiplat games and not showing how the experience is going to exceed that of what core gamers currently own is not going to convince anyone to splash out $300+ on a new console.

I never even said Nintendo's e3 conference was a big push with core gamers. What i said was that "Nintendo seemed to want to make a big push with core games & 3rd parties with wii U", i wasn't speaking about e3 specifically. The fact is, Nintendo is releasing a pro controller obviously aimed at core gamers. They are making the hardware powerful enough & the controllers more standard (compared to the wii), to have 3rd parties on board. They are making an online infrastructure which we don't yet know much about, but it seems we will have voice and video chat amongst other things. So you can put your head in the sand and say "i don't see Nintendo making ANY push with core gamers". But that's still just you putting your head in the sand, it doesn't mean that your right in any way, shape or form.

The discussion is: WHY is Nintendo not revealing these games if they actually are launch titles? WHY in the hell would they hold back that information? Does it make sense to you?

I think your right, they wanted to promote a few select titles, especially Nintendoland. Still just makes me wonder, if BO2 and Madden are really launch titles, why not mention them in a big e3 presentation? It just seems so strange to me. Was it a weird business decision? Nintendo didn't want to reveal too much?

That's not the point of this thread so

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You seem to be engaged in some goalpost moving here. No one said Nintendo isn't making ANY push for core gamers. You did say they were making a "big" push. If they want to make a big push for core gamers, they need to either moneyhat big exclusives left and right or produce first party games that are appealing to core gamers. Simply saying, "Yeah, we're getting some games, whatever, and here's a controller we made for you, and maybe our online won't suck this time, I dunno, we'll see," isn't going to cut it. A big part of the reason Nintendo is on course to find itself left out in the cold once the PS4/Nextbox launch isn't just because of any technological disparity that will make it more work to put those games on their system, but because they don't seem at all interested in courting core gamers who aren't already Nintendo fans. All the games that were smash hits on the Wii were ones that followed Nintendo's own lead, while the ones that tried to bring "mature content" to the Wii failed pretty miserably. If Nintendo wants to change the existing dynamic, they will have to do it themselves.

Money says if ZombiU had been shown for any other platform, core gamers would be shitting their britches with delight.

There are several games that weren`t announced but people are expecting and will most likely come to Wii U:
Fifa 13, Madden, BO2, NfS, MoH (?).

So, why weren`t they announced? My guess is one of two: Seing as Nintendo hasn`t announced their online strategy, this games could end up being a demonstration of how their online strategy/play will work; there`s something controller related that deserves more focus.

Either way, revealing this closer to launch might boost up morale for Wii U!

Why? Dead Island already blew everyone's heads off with a much better trailer that was completely divorced from the reality of their zombie game. ZombiU itself seems completely okay and has some interesting ideas, but it's very generic looking and is certainly nothing revolutionary.

If you actually want to write a real post, then answer my original question posed in this forum. If not, then just go acidpenispants the hell out of here badg-gnome