Sony needs to go head to head with MS.

If 720 is released in Sept... PS4 needs to be released Oct/Nov.

If 720 is $400... PS4 needs to be the same price.

Andrespetmonkey said: 9087 said: mysticwolf said: i think it will release either Holiday 2013 or Summer 2014, maximum price $450. For the record, I dont think Uncharted 4 will be a Launch title. ND is usually on a 2 year cycle, but since they need to learn new hardware, they will take an extra year.... meaning Uncharted 4 will be out 2014. One year after the PS4 is released. ND have 2 teams now, once the TLOU team is finished early next year they could help with Uncharted 4 for a year, making development much quicker, maybe not the whole team but I', sure at least some would, especially if it's a request from Sony to have as a launch title or launch window title. Actually by Q3 this year TLOU will be at the polishing stages, so maybe some of the team will switch to Uncharted 4 that early. I think it's definitely possible, and it would be a great move for Sony.  As would GT6, which seems very possible as it'll be 3 years since the last release when PS4 comes out, Polyphony was already working on it a couple months before GT5 came out and they said development will be quicker this time.

No.

 

Thats not how things work. Naughty Dog probably doesnt WANT Uncharted as a launch title.... why release a game to a user base of 0 people???

 

They will come out with U4 in 2014 when PS4 has a 8-12 million user base. 

9087 said: Andrespetmonkey said: 9087 said: mysticwolf said: i think it will release either Holiday 2013 or Summer 2014, maximum price $450. For the record, I dont think Uncharted 4 will be a Launch title. ND is usually on a 2 year cycle, but since they need to learn new hardware, they will take an extra year.... meaning Uncharted 4 will be out 2014. One year after the PS4 is released. ND have 2 teams now, once the TLOU team is finished early next year they could help with Uncharted 4 for a year, making development much quicker, maybe not the whole team but I', sure at least some would, especially if it's a request from Sony to have as a launch title or launch window title. Actually by Q3 this year TLOU will be at the polishing stages, so maybe some of the team will switch to Uncharted 4 that early. I think it's definitely possible, and it would be a great move for Sony.  As would GT6, which seems very possible as it'll be 3 years since the last release when PS4 comes out, Polyphony was already working on it a couple months before GT5 came out and they said development will be quicker this time. No.   Thats not how things work. Naughty Dog probably doesnt WANT Uncharted as a launch title.... why release a game to a user base of 0 people???   They will come out with U4 in 2014 when PS4 has a 8-12 million user base.

you do realise consumers can and do still buy games years after they released? So ND won't miss out on any consumers as people can still go back and purchase older games.

I agree though. Uncharted 4 shoulld release the year after the PS4 releases. The first holiday for a console, people will buy it regardless of games (well of course, there has to be some games). So there's no pressure to release your games here. The second holiday is when to unleash your arsenal.

Especially after how glitchy and rushed Uncharted 3 was, I think ND will want an extra year to wok on U4.

9087 said: Especially after how glitchy and rushed Uncharted 3 was, I think ND will want an extra year to wok on U4.

Seems likely, Naughty Dog did say they would have liked more time with Uncharted 3. But I think they were a bit over-ambitious with UC3. With UC4, they may decide to play it safe. It's usually better to be conservative with games early in a console's life cycle, just to get the game out there. It's toward the end where developers should really push themselves.

So, we're all betting on Uncharted 4 being Naughty Dog Team 1's project then? Somehow, I don't see it.

Given the history of how Naughty Dog operates, the talented people there etc., I can't see them wanting to stay on just one project. Even with the runaway success that UC was, I think they'll move onto something else. Maybe give Uncharted to Bend or Team 2 or something.

Unless Sony forces them to of course, idk.

9087 said: Andrespetmonkey said: 9087 said: mysticwolf said: i think it will release either Holiday 2013 or Summer 2014, maximum price $450. For the record, I dont think Uncharted 4 will be a Launch title. ND is usually on a 2 year cycle, but since they need to learn new hardware, they will take an extra year.... meaning Uncharted 4 will be out 2014. One year after the PS4 is released. ND have 2 teams now, once the TLOU team is finished early next year they could help with Uncharted 4 for a year, making development much quicker, maybe not the whole team but I', sure at least some would, especially if it's a request from Sony to have as a launch title or launch window title. Actually by Q3 this year TLOU will be at the polishing stages, so maybe some of the team will switch to Uncharted 4 that early. I think it's definitely possible, and it would be a great move for Sony.  As would GT6, which seems very possible as it'll be 3 years since the last release when PS4 comes out, Polyphony was already working on it a couple months before GT5 came out and they said development will be quicker this time. No.   Thats not how things work. Naughty Dog probably doesnt WANT Uncharted as a launch title.... why release a game to a user base of 0 people???   They will come out with U4 in 2014 when PS4 has a 8-12 million user base.

It's not really up to ND. Of course they have a say, but it's Sony funding their studio, and they could offer them a big bonus if they get it out at launch.

9087 said: Especially after how glitchy and rushed Uncharted 3 was, I think ND will want an extra year to wok on U4.

lol really? I don't think I encountered a glitch in UC3, not even one. That's really odd cause I've heard this criticism before

Kresnik said: So, we're all betting on Uncharted 4 being Naughty Dog Team 1's project then? Somehow, I don't see it. Given the history of how Naughty Dog operates, the talented people there etc., I can't see them wanting to stay on just one project. Even with the runaway success that UC was, I think they'll move onto something else. Maybe give Uncharted to Bend or Team 2 or something. Unless Sony forces them to of course, idk.

They were FORCED to stop making Crash Bandicoot since they didnt own the IP. 

Jak 2 and 3 had poor and declining sales, so it made sense to start a new IP on PS3.

 

 

It absolutely would not make sense to drop Uncharted at this point. Its become a big success and sells well (6 million). 

 

9087 said: Kresnik said: So, we're all betting on Uncharted 4 being Naughty Dog Team 1's project then? Somehow, I don't see it. Given the history of how Naughty Dog operates, the talented people there etc., I can't see them wanting to stay on just one project. Even with the runaway success that UC was, I think they'll move onto something else. Maybe give Uncharted to Bend or Team 2 or something. Unless Sony forces them to of course, idk. They were FORCED to stop making Crash Bandicoot since they didnt own the IP.  Jak 2 and 3 had poor and declining sales, so it made sense to start a new IP on PS3.     It absolutely would not make sense to drop Uncharted at this point. Its become a big success and sells well (6 million).

For Sony it wouldn't make sense, sure, but look what happened with the previous two transitions:

Crash -> Jak.  Changed from a 3D platformer in an essentially 3D field to a fully 3D, expansive, open world, critically acclaimed masterpiece.  They could tell a better story, create more exciting worlds, introduce etc.

Jak -> Uncharted.  Changed from a teenage-esque platformer with shooting elements to a fully fledged third person shooter with a grown up, exciting story with interesting set pieces, which just made an incredibly cinematic game.

I don't like overhyping companies, but I want to see what Naughty Dog can do next.  I genuinely believe that they can expand their games even further if they're not bound in by having to cater to a pre-existing franchise.