the_dengle said:
GameAnalyser said:
Don't you think PS3+Vita would compete with Wii-U? And that sadly is coming from a five and half year console to a console that hasn't been launched yet.
What will be that extra "element" that trounces PS3+Vita off ?
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You still don't get it. It's NOT coming from a five-and-a-half-year-old console if it requires the Vita to work. Then it's coming from a 6-month-old console.
There has been some manner of compatibility between handheld and home consoles since at LEAST the GameBoy/N64 days. GBA/GCN took it to the next level. So let's narrow it down: the Wii U can stream full retail console games to the GamePad. You can play a full console game in the next room over from the console running it while someone else is watching TV. You couldn't do that with the GBA and GCN. You couldn't do that with the DS and Wii. Could you do it with the PSP and PS3? Not that I've heard. That means you can only do it with the Wii U or the PS Vita, both of which are next-gen hardware. The PS3 can't do it on its own.
But if Wii U still needs something more (even though it doesn't), it's MUCH more powerful than the PS3. This whole conversation reeks of redundancy. The Wii U is next-gen. That's a fact. Asking why it is next-gen is silly, as it's well-documented that the Wii U can do things no 7th-gen console is capable of, it's more powerful than any 7th-gen console, and it's made by a company that released a 7th-gen console 6 years ago. There is no dispute to be had. You're just being stubborn.
Once again, show me how the PS3 uses NFC. Show me how it can support 5-player simultaneous local multiplayer on a single console. Show me that PS3 supports physical AND digital distribution for all full console releases. The next-gen features are there, and they are plentiful. If it wasn't implemented in 7th-gen consoles at launch, it might still be a next-gen feature, even if they were eventually able to do it through a peripheral.
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"But if Wii U still needs something more (even though it doesn't), it's MUCH more powerful than the PS3"- Although the "MUCH more" is quite bold for now, do let the time reveal it.
Although you have been successful in pointing out the purported "next gen" features in your last para, you are trying to make the peripherals/add-on features of the current- gen consoles as the inferior substitutes to next-gen features, which should rather be well embraced as the advantages of current-gen to next- gen compatibility. Sadly, regarding this why does the 6 year old Wii fail on many levels whereas the 5 and a half year old PS3 wins? That's the whole reason why the conversation still holds a meaning and the thread's been put up.
NFC isn't a new thing(androids/iOS smartphones and credit card systems have had its implementations for quite a while). In the case of PS3 otherwise rendered useless, Vita is definitely required to render the functionality , a general feature on Smartphones these days.
5-player local simultaneous multiplayer( still does require the use of Wii- Game Pad Screen for the 5th player's - a disadv )which is literally deemed a next-gen feature, but do not quite stand out quite as the real "next gen" IMO. It isn't quite a big leap from 2-player local co-op either. You can shut me up instantly if they come up with the full functional online multiplayer announcement in Pikmin 3. That's where the real next gen lurks in my opinion.
As for the digital distribution - again time will reveal whether PS3 can do it exclusively or with the Vita's aid, and seriously we haven't reached that point yet where all full console digital releases are co-existing succesfully with the traditional retail packaged content.
