By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sports - The Euro 2012 thread

zuvuyeay on 10 June 2012
kennyrester said:
Really looking forward to today, though I wouldn't expect too much excitement were I a neutral. Hoping for a big win for Spain in the hope that we can hold them to a draw or, more likely, a narrow defeat and maybe squeak through on goal difference with four points. Unlikely I know, but a man can dream


need to dream,if the danes can beat holland then ireland can beat croatia,just need belief and a bit of luck like everyone else



                                                                                                                                        Above & Beyond

   

Around the Network
zuvuyeay on 10 June 2012
okr said:
After Hummels' performance yesterday you still say they dont' show what they're capable of and that they showed next to nothing. Okay, let's stop it here. As usual with football discussions, this leads nowhere.


is this like spain with real v barcelona players in germany with dortmund v bayern players



                                                                                                                                        Above & Beyond

   

Barozi on 10 June 2012
okr said:
After Hummels' performance yesterday you still say they dont' show what they're capable of and that they showed next to nothing. Okay, let's stop it here. As usual with football discussions, this leads nowhere.

Fantastic performance and definitely better than Mertesacker. Still far more bad and very mediocre performances than good ones. In Dortmund it's the other way around.
One fantastic game out of 15 is just not enough. Well considering all of our current central defenders it is enough sadly.

Also it's totally bullshit that I prefer Bayern players. I prefer players that have proven themselves over new ones who need 15 caps to show a good performance.



DirtyP2002 on 10 June 2012
Barozi said:
okr said:
JazzyJeez said:
okr said:
Too much Bayern, too few Dortmund today. Won a game, won't win the title if they don't change their pacing and tactics. Hummels played great.

Yeah I was really impressed with Mats Hummels, got a very good engine in him.

Unfortunately he was the only player in today's German team from Borussia Dortmund, one of Europe's best 2011/2012 league teams. The team which beat Bayern 5 times in the last two seasons, the team which won both national titles this season. Jogi Löw loves how Dortmund plays, but for some reason he doesn't trust most of the young Dortmund players like he trusted his then new, young players (e.g. Müller, Özil) two years ago in South Africa. He wants the Bayern players to play like Dortmund: extremely fast paced, always 2on1, constantly pressing, surprising combinations, but they just can't do it. They lost all 3 possible national and international titles this season and still they can't help but to play the currently typical, old-fashioned Bayern style: Too slow, always horizontally orientated prior to vertically, just without Robben & Ribery this time, their two overrated onemanshows, but with a Özil instead who's a fantastic player but seems not to be in best shape atm and a Lukas Podolski who's really not needed in this team anymore.

At least Khedira played very good today, best player besides Hummels, gives me some hope. Still I say: Bayern Germany won't win this title. If he doesn't win the title with this 7of11/Bayern+2of11/RealMadrid national team, Löw can at least claim he probably had the best bench of this tournament: Götze, Bender, Gündogan, Schmelzer (all Dortmund), Reus (Borussia Mönchengladbach, next season: Dortmund), Höwedes, Schürrle (both Schalke 04). All excellent, young players.

Wh0t Schürrle plays for Leverkusen.

Besides I wouldn't trust most of the Dortmund players either. There's simply not much reason for it. They play great for Dortmund, but mostly suck in the national team. This was Hummels best game by far, because usually he is the reason why Germany can't win with a clean sheet. Schmelzer plays equally bad
and Goetze had maybe two great games... out of 15.

And you know how those friendlies turn out when Löw experiments too much...


As for the game Germany was the unlucky one, not Portugal. Gomez scored a perfect goal, but the referee called a foul like 2 seconds before Gomez takes the shot. Ever heard of the advantage rule ?
Then the referee also denied us a clear red card. Fist into the face of Badstuber and no one can tell that this was an unintentional move. Not a very hard punch, but still easily enough for a red card.

Overall well deserved victory and at the same time still lots of room for improvements. Portugal only tried to score a goal after they were in behind starting in the ~80th minute. Before that they didn't have more chances than Germany.

Götze only played 118 minutes in the qualification for the tournament !!! He even scored once.
He played 554 minutes for Germany in friendly games (about 6 games if you want.) He scored twice. One against Brazil.

That is pretty impressive for a 19 year old midfielder (I know he just turned 20 last week).

Schmelzer is not on the level of Lahm, no doubt about it.

Hummels is bay far the best defender in Germany and I go one step further that you only have a handful of players in the world with his skills on that position.

But what Schweinsteiger played was just awful. He wants to lead a team? Well he has to increase his performance by a factor of 10 for that.
Müller was a pain to watch. He never came even close of his game in the 2010 world cup. Neither in this game nor in any game in the past 2 years. Reus or Götze should get their chance.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

Chrizum on 10 June 2012
RolStoppable said:
Chrizum jinxed it with his "I don't care" attitude.

I care, very much so about football. I don't care for the VGChartz forums.

We are going to end up last in the group. I reckon Germany and Denmark will go through.



Around the Network
RedInker on 10 June 2012

I Predict Spain vs Italy to be a lame 0-0 draw.



germibobi on 10 June 2012

There was somebody that was blamming Bayern players for Germany not playing attacking yesterday. That was not their fault . It was Portugal who was too defensive. Those same players played at WC 2010 and also the qualifiers where Germany played attacking football. But I agree that Gotze or Schurlle should play instead of Podolski, he is just bad. But Schmelze instead of Lahm or Boateng. Ridicolous, Schmelzer is one of the reason Germany lost to Switzerland 3-5.



kennyrester on 10 June 2012

Looks like Spain are going with the old 6-4-0. Not convincing at all so far, Italy looking much more threatening



kennyrester on 10 June 2012

God almighty, a Mexican wave. Might as well give up lads



jonop on 10 June 2012

Italy had the best of the first half but I think Spain will probably win with the options they have on the bench. I reckon Ballotelli will get himself sent off if he isn't subbed too.