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E3 was poor in quantity not in quality, i hope Nintendo announces games on their own pace, something they usually do...



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happydolphin said:
Michael-5 said:

I think they did.

When Nintendo announced the Gamecube and showed a preliminary lineup, there were 12 games, most of which good, which released within the year Gamecube launched. Metroid Prime, Eternal Darkness, Wave Race, Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, Smash Bros, Starfox Adventures, NBA Courtside, Disney's Magical Mirror and 3 other's (all exclusive). 4 of those games released with the system or a couple weeks later.

All we know about Wii U is Pikmin 3....might be a launch title.

 

However is this a bad thing? DS launched with only Super Mario 64 DS and Metroid Prime/Advance Wars came a full year later. Wii launched with a Zelda port, and within the year it launched we saw only 4 major Nintendo titles (Galaxy, Kart, Smash, and Metroid) and a game originally intended for the cube (Super Paper Mario), yet those two systems were the most successful Nintendo systems yet.

 

It's just odd.....I knew more about the 3DS and Wii U last E3 then I do at this one.

It is a bad thing. Had Nintendo been in a tougher situation (cube, N64), this wouldn't fly. Thankfully the 360 and PS3 were not up to the task this gen, but next gen that might change. I think we lowered the bar for videogames, it's time to raise it back up. Comparing 1st party launch titles between WiiU and cube, or even against the NES, we see a real problem.

Alright, I agree, but I don't think Nintendo is in trouble. The main issue is will Nintendo be capable of keeping 3rd party, non Ubisoft titles, to be released on the Wii U even when the PS4/Nextbox release. It's one thing to get Assassin's Creed 3 and Mass Effect 3 when the PS3/360 are still around, but if third party shifts to the next powerhouse consoles, and the Wii U doesn't get a version of the game....then it might be in trouble.

Actually.....what I think the biggest issue for Nintendo is staleness. The Wii saw great iterations of Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Donkey, Kong, etc. Assuming Nintendo can make sequels to these franchises that have 9+/10 scores, would people even care? How many years can Nintendo just release sequels?



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Michael-5 said:

Alright, I agree, but I don't think Nintendo is in trouble. The main issue is will Nintendo be capable of keeping 3rd party, non Ubisoft titles, to be released on the Wii U even when the PS4/Nextbox release. It's one thing to get Assassin's Creed 3 and Mass Effect 3 when the PS3/360 are still around, but if third party shifts to the next powerhouse consoles, and the Wii U doesn't get a version of the game....then it might be in trouble.

Actually.....what I think the biggest issue for Nintendo is staleness. The Wii saw great iterations of Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Donkey, Kong, etc. Assuming Nintendo can make sequels to these franchises that have 9+/10 scores, would people even care? How many years can Nintendo just release sequels?

It's hard to tell. The generations change every 6 years. The kids who played Nintendo moved on, and a new generation emerges, hungry for all the games their older brothers/sisters played.

I'm not sure how long this can go on, but maybe Nintendo needs to more accurately brand their game series so as to not confuse customers.



happydolphin said:
Michael-5 said:

Alright, I agree, but I don't think Nintendo is in trouble. The main issue is will Nintendo be capable of keeping 3rd party, non Ubisoft titles, to be released on the Wii U even when the PS4/Nextbox release. It's one thing to get Assassin's Creed 3 and Mass Effect 3 when the PS3/360 are still around, but if third party shifts to the next powerhouse consoles, and the Wii U doesn't get a version of the game....then it might be in trouble.

Actually.....what I think the biggest issue for Nintendo is staleness. The Wii saw great iterations of Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Donkey, Kong, etc. Assuming Nintendo can make sequels to these franchises that have 9+/10 scores, would people even care? How many years can Nintendo just release sequels?

It's hard to tell. The generations change every 6 years. The kids who played Nintendo moved on, and a new generation emerges, hungry for all the games their older brothers/sisters played.

I'm not sure how long this can go on, but maybe Nintendo needs to more accurately brand their game series so as to not confuse customers.

I dunno about that, Nintendo has a strong fanbase online and I would argue that most Nintendo fans don't just move on.

I myself own every Nintendo except the Virtual Boy and have plan to get a Wii U and a 3DS. There are enough niche/small volume franchises from Nintendo to keep me hooked (e.g. XenoBlade, Pikmin 3, Paper Mario, etc).

I just keep thinking, it's Mario and Zelda that sell, and the most successful iterations are the ones closest to the original design. Nintendo hasn't really made any new high volume franchises or characters since Smash Bros in the late 90's. I wonder if they still have what it takes to make a new high volume franchise.



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