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maxnyc said:

In the home console & portable gaming arena, Nintendo was unquestionably the first to introduce all those innovations. All of these were quickly copied by rivals. Check your history, it may help clarify things. If i'm wrong, then provide an example....

Alright, an example: the first handheld to use a touch screen and a stylus was not made by Nintendo.



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shakarak said:

I don't think anybody could ever replace Reggie.

Reggie doesn't die.  Just Nintendo fakes his execution at E3, and Microsoft decides to one up Nintendo by executing Ballmer within a year.  Then, after Ballmer is gone, Nintendo show Reggie is alive and well...

Ok, I just realized this probably doesn't goes as well, because then Microsoft resurrects Ballmer from the dead, trying to one up Nintendo.



badgenome said:

Microsoft isn't supposed to come out with a tablet, they're supposed to come out with an app that will let you use your own existing smartphone or tablet with Xbox. Which is much, much smarter than anything Nintendo has shown regarding the Wii U thus far.


That sounds like the dumbest idea i've heard in a while. Not only is every tablet/phone different, they also don't have any buttons or thumbsticks. In almost every possible way, that idea would fail miserably.



badgenome said:
maxnyc said:

In the home console & portable gaming arena, Nintendo was unquestionably the first to introduce all those innovations. All of these were quickly copied by rivals. Check your history, it may help clarify things. If i'm wrong, then provide an example....

Alright, an example: the first handheld to use a touch screen and a stylus was not made by Nintendo.


Ok, you got me, looks like Tiger electronics are the true innovators. Too bad the thing sold like 5 units....



maxnyc said:
badgenome said:

Microsoft isn't supposed to come out with a tablet, they're supposed to come out with an app that will let you use your own existing smartphone or tablet with Xbox. Which is much, much smarter than anything Nintendo has shown regarding the Wii U thus far.


That sounds like the dumbest idea i've heard in a while. Not only is every tablet/phone different, they also don't have any buttons or thumbsticks. In almost every possible way, that idea would fail miserably.

What would it fail to do, exactly? It sounds like you're assuming it would be an attempt to do exactly what the Wii U controller does, but it probably wouldn't.



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maxnyc said:
badgenome said:

Alright, an example: the first handheld to use a touch screen and a stylus was not made by Nintendo.


Ok, you got me, looks like Tiger electronics are the true innovators. Too bad the thing sold like 5 units....

Nintendo is very good at making money off of other people's ideas, there's no doubt. And that's not a backhanded compliment, either. Who cares who made the first motion controller when Nintendo were the ones to make bank on it? The fact remains that they haven't invented anything you credit them with.



badgenome said:
maxnyc said:
badgenome said:

Microsoft isn't supposed to come out with a tablet, they're supposed to come out with an app that will let you use your own existing smartphone or tablet with Xbox. Which is much, much smarter than anything Nintendo has shown regarding the Wii U thus far.


That sounds like the dumbest idea i've heard in a while. Not only is every tablet/phone different, they also don't have any buttons or thumbsticks. In almost every possible way, that idea would fail miserably.

What would it fail to do, exactly? It sounds like you're assuming it would be an attempt to do exactly what the Wii U controller does, but it probably wouldn't.


I think the more relevant questions is- what the hell would it do & what would be the point of connecting random tablet devices to your console? You couldn't actually play games with your tablet/phone, so then what? How would it add to a gameplay experience, especially when every phone is different and probably most wouldn't even work...



maxnyc said:

I think the more relevant questions is- what the hell would it do & what would be the point of connecting random tablet devices to your console? You couldn't actually play games with your tablet/phone, so then what? How would it add to a gameplay experience, especially when every phone is different and probably most wouldn't even work...

I guess we will see in less than 24 hours, won't we?



badgenome said:
maxnyc said:
badgenome said:

Alright, an example: the first handheld to use a touch screen and a stylus was not made by Nintendo.


Ok, you got me, looks like Tiger electronics are the true innovators. Too bad the thing sold like 5 units....

Nintendo is very good at making money off of other people's ideas, there's no doubt. And that's not a backhanded compliment, either. Who cares who made the first motion controller when Nintendo were the ones to make bank on it? The fact remains that they haven't invented anything you credit them with.


You're failing to understand and comprehend a few obvious things. First and possibly most importantly, there's a major difference between invention & innovation. Nintendo was undeniably the first gaming company to make proper use of many ideas, some which had already existed in primeval form (as in your example of the game.com device). They implement things from a hardware & software side, creating compelling & unique gaming experiences. They innovated the first d-pad, which you admit. They released the first true portable gaming machine, the gameboy. They introduced the first 3d system, the virtuaboy which was a failure, later corrected with the 3ds. They introduced the first 360 thumbstick (& rumble) with the n64. They implemented connectivity with the gamecube & gameboy advance, a first at the time. They implemented touch controls and dual-screens with the DS, in a way that no other gaming company had even come close to accomplishing. They realized motion controls with a home console experience, also a first. I'm not claiming Nintendo invented every single one of these things, but they certainly innovated all of them, and brought them to life in a way that no other company ever did. This is the hardware side, if you want to have a history of software, we can do that too...



lol at everyone wanking on nintendo r&d ms blows about any software company out of the water when it comes to r&d they have stuff in the pipeline for the next 20 years.... give me a break