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How many times have you seen it, or plan to, in theaters?

0 0 0%
 
1 18 50.00%
 
2 4 11.11%
 
3 6 16.67%
 
4 1 2.78%
 
5 0 0%
 
6 0 0%
 
7 0 0%
 
8 0 0%
 
see dirty insides 7 19.44%
 
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ithis said:
I enjoy it a lot BUT I read somewhere and I agree that the plot was thin on twists or surprises, the ending was predictable...
Actually, my pretty big disappointment with the film as the final battle unfolded was that the promised (and hoped for by me) super "Boot vs ant" invading army was LAAAMEEEE. I mean, they could easily die from small arms fire. WTF?

Hoping for more drama for the next one.

Before I saw the film, I checked out the review on Spill.com.  They called the alien invaders the battle droids from Star Wars episode 1.  Just cannon fodder for the might of the Avengers.



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I didn't like, to tell the truth i wanted to leave the room before it ended. I found it to be so the same of other movies, the dialogues were shallow, the plot was nothing we haven't seen many times before, the action scenes are just random punchs and kicks. I mean, The Dark Knight was a much better movie, it was a great movie universally, not just a good super hero movie. I really dont understand all this love for Avengers, its such a flawed movie and its success rides only at super heroes it stars, take of Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man and the Scarlett Johansson Character and Hawkeye and put not famous heroes with the same lines with the same plot and no one would watch it.



No love for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Anyway, I saw The Avengers in theaters. Now, I'm gonna watch it on my Vita! I pirated it from the net. Yeah, I'll still buy it on Blu Ray but, in the meantime, I gotta watch it again and again. Can't wait to go to work tonight!



d21lewis said:
No love for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Anyway, I saw The Avengers in theaters. Now, I'm gonna watch it on my Vita! I pirated it from the net. Yeah, I'll still buy it on Blu Ray but, in the meantime, I gotta watch it again and again. Can't wait to go to work tonight!

The only decent TMNT movie was the 2007 animated flick. The first film drew too much from the cartoon and too little from the far superior comic book.




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rocketpig said:
d21lewis said:
No love for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Anyway, I saw The Avengers in theaters. Now, I'm gonna watch it on my Vita! I pirated it from the net. Yeah, I'll still buy it on Blu Ray but, in the meantime, I gotta watch it again and again. Can't wait to go to work tonight!

The only decent TMNT movie was the 2007 animated flick. The first film drew too much from the cartoon and too little from the far superior comic book.

Leonardo vs. Raphael > Thor vs. Iron Man

I have fond memories of the first one (I have to admit that I never read the black and white Eastman and Laird comics).  I haven't seen it in ages, though.  Probably not since a year or two after it came out.



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d21lewis said:
rocketpig said:
d21lewis said:
No love for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Anyway, I saw The Avengers in theaters. Now, I'm gonna watch it on my Vita! I pirated it from the net. Yeah, I'll still buy it on Blu Ray but, in the meantime, I gotta watch it again and again. Can't wait to go to work tonight!

The only decent TMNT movie was the 2007 animated flick. The first film drew too much from the cartoon and too little from the far superior comic book.

Leonardo vs. Raphael > Thor vs. Iron Man

I have fond memories of the first one (I have to admit that I never read the black and white Eastman and Laird comics).  I haven't seen it in ages, though.  Probably not since a year or two after it came out.

I wasn't terribly impressed by the Thor/Iron Man fight but the Thor/Hulk fight was golden, especially when the Hulk tried to pick up Mjolnir.

The TMNT comic was much darker than the cartoon. It wasn't Sin City dark but it definitely wasn't light and bubbly.

Plus, Eastman and Laird killed Shredder in the first or second issue.




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rocketpig said:

Plus, Eastman and Laird killed Shredder in the first or second issue.


HOLY SHIT!



Saw it last night, awesome job all around. Marvel really hasn't let me down in the last couple of years, and with The Avengers doing so well there will be many more movies on the way.



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hunter_alien said:

I did read it The thing is that we have a wonderfull new invention, that is called the internet. If you are interested, you CAN get plenty of info about movie release hype, waaaay before you where born Judging by Mordreds history, I think its a safe bet to assume that he actually has some clue about what hes talking about.

 

You can go ahead and defend his argument (which he claimed with certainty, not leaving any room for doubt whatsoever) but those of us who have been around for awhile know better. He made a grandiose claim that The Avengers was undoubtedly the most hyped movie ever. I presented several points that contradicted that statement such as "it didn't release in the most theatres", "it didn't have the biggest opening day in history", and "Disney released it in early May, which is far from the peak season of Memorial Day through August". He ignored them. He's simply too young to know whether the The Phantom Menace was more hyped than The Avengers because he was four years old when it released, just as I cannot be sure where the original Star Wars falls on the hype scale. If he was using actual data to prove his point, his point might be more salient. He is making a factless claim made on historical observation, which is laughable coming from a 17 year old. That is the only reason I brought up his age. He is stating an opinion that is largely based on observational evidence drawn over a period of time. He is 17 years old. Do you see the problem with this?

I already explained to you that the theater count doesn't mean anything in a movie's hype. Twilight Eclipse and Iron Man 2 have the highest theatres count ever,but they aren't even in the top 45 movies of all time.It just doesn't work like that,you can't expect for a movie to be bigger just because it opens in more places.

Regarding your statement on Disney choosing May as the release month,I'm gonna quote an article from BOM :

''Still, all five Avengers movies have combined for around $2.2 billion so far, and those have essentially served as advertisements for The Avengers' much-hyped superhero meet-up. The movie is also incredibly well-positioned at the beginning of a weak May and should at the very least crush Iron Man 2's total.''

Releasing in May was actually Disney's best decision,otherwise it would have went against some big movies that would have hurt it substantially ( The Amazing Spider-Man , The Dark Knight Rises )

All that's left is your opening day argument.

''The movie earned $80.5 million, which is the second-highest opening day ever behind last Summer's Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 ($91.1 million). More impressively, when you take midnight grosses out The Avengers scored $61.8 million during the day on Friday, which obliterates Spider-Man 3's previous record of $49.8 million.''

Having huge midnight grosses is not normal for a comic-book movie such as The Avengers.That's the only reason why DH2 had a better opening day,not because of more hype,but because of more fanbase loyalty.

All your arguments are invalid as to why The Avengers ISN'T the most hyped movie ever. It seems to me that being older gives you a certain arrogance,and just can't admit that you may be wrong.

The movie had the biggest opening week-end ever,and that isn't due to the good reviews. I'd be surprised if even 3-5% of the people that have seen The Avengers thus far know about it's reviews.

They did something unprecendented.As the article on BOM says, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor and Captain America have all served as advertisements for The Avengers. Give me another case of such hype-building strategy.



Mordred11 said:

All your arguments are invalid as to why The Avengers ISN'T the most hyped movie ever. It seems to me that being older gives you a certain arrogance,and just can't admit that you may be wrong.


Okay, this is my last response to you. It's convenient how you typed this paragraph but cut the part of my post where I said I'm not bold enough to claim anything is "most hyped" without evidence to support the argument. Yes, that reeks of arrogance.

You list the other movies that drove some Avengers hype. I won't argue that but what makes that any different than the early Harry Potter movies driving the hype behind the final film? What makes that any different than the monster hype behind the original trilogy driving Star Wars prequel hype? What makes it any different than Fellowship and Towers driving the hype behind RotK?

Simply put, it doesn't.

Studios create hype by throwing money at a movie. Part of that payoff is in how many theatres buy the movie for screening. The Avengers isn't even in the top three in that regard. Another way they expect a monetary payoff is to show the movie when the most people are able to see it. That means a mid-summer release or Memorial Day at the very least. They shuffled the film three weeks in front of the typical summer movie schedule. And finally, the Avengers didn't even have the best opening day, which doesn't speak well of the supposed "most hyped movie of all time" argument. The midnight showing argument doesn't make sense. If a movie is the most hyped, the midnight showings will be packed.

For the last time, I'm not arguing whether Avengers was hyped. I'm not making much of a claim past "its hype is on par with several movies that preceeded it". You're the one adamantly claiming something. I'm simply saying that you're probably wrong because evidence doesn't lead to that conclusion. That's it.

And now I'm done with this conversation. We're not going to agree on this.




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