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Was the Wii a fad?

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No 152 44.97%
 
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d21lewis on 10 May 2012
Mazty said:
d21lewis said:


Zelda has rarely been the absolute best selling game on a Nintendo platform.  It's almost always Mario Kart, Mario, or Smash Bros.  If you don't mind my asking, how did those franchises sell on the Wii?

Mario Kart has sold ~30 million which sounds good, until you realise that a game 4 years old is STILL being bundled with the console. In no other generation has such a thing happened and it shows the lack in improving games on the Wii. The 360 is bundled with Halo Reach nowadays, and COD MW3, not COD 2.

If we look at Mario Galaxy, it sold under 11 million. For a genre leading game, thats not very good performance when the difference in consoles sold is considered. 

What if we look at New Super Mario Bros? 

Also, let me ask another question.  Are we going by percentage of owners, here?  If so, what percentage of PS2 owners bought God of War 1 and God of War 2?  It had a HUGE userbase, right?  That was a "genre leading game" franchies, right?  I'm sure they both sold amazing numbers.  That's going by your rules, of course.



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superchunk on 10 May 2012
Mazty said:

You're ignoring the audience it's aimed at. A game console should be sold for it's games, not for the controller. To sell on the controller is a fad. You don't buy a car because the seats are nice while ignoring the ride. 

A fad for gamers - a fad aimed at gamers. It's not a complex notion...Short-lived is relative though. Fashion fads last longer then playground fads as it depends on audience. 

Motion controls have been a big part of this gen, but that doesn't mean it isn't a fad. If motion controls are not adopted as the controls of the future, then motion controls are a fad as they are a one-hit (as in this gen) wonder.  The wii is a fad as it's not aimed for gamers. It offers nothing benefical to gaming, and therefore, is a fad. 


That is the craziest logic and biggest load of rubbish I've ever read on VGC... ever.

Motion controls have been copied by both major competitors and will be on all three next gen consoles. (100% for Nintendo/MS)

Wii's game library hit every genre. I know because I've bought one from each. Additionally, it has nothing to do with your skewed definition of a gamer.

Wii is a gaming console and aimed to make people want to play games. It did that very well. Its only fault was its hardware weakness as compared to its competitors and thus losing all AAA 3rd party support.

Furthermore, the motion controls in themselves and the idea that how you play is just as important as what you play is always a great benefit to gaming that is always pioneered by Nintendo.



d21lewis on 10 May 2012
Mazty said:
d21lewis said:


Zelda has rarely been the absolute best selling game on a Nintendo platform.  It's almost always Mario Kart, Mario, or Smash Bros.  If you don't mind my asking, how did those franchises sell on the Wii?

Mario Kart has sold ~30 million which sounds good, until you realise that a game 4 years old is STILL being bundled with the console. In no other generation has such a thing happened and it shows the lack in improving games on the Wii. The 360 is bundled with Halo Reach nowadays, and COD MW3, not COD 2.

If we look at Mario Galaxy, it sold under 11 million. For a genre leading game, thats not very good performance when the difference in consoles sold is considered. 

What if we look at New Super Mario Bros? 

Also, let me ask another question.  Are we going by percentage of owners, here?  If so, what percentage of PS2 owners bought God of War 1 and God of War 2?  It had a HUGE userbase, right?  That was a "genre leading game" franchies, right?  I'm sure they both sold amazing numbers.  That's going by your rules, of course.



Mazty on 10 May 2012
d21lewis said:
Mazty said:
d21lewis said:


Zelda has rarely been the absolute best selling game on a Nintendo platform.  It's almost always Mario Kart, Mario, or Smash Bros.  If you don't mind my asking, how did those franchises sell on the Wii?

Mario Kart has sold ~30 million which sounds good, until you realise that a game 4 years old is STILL being bundled with the console. In no other generation has such a thing happened and it shows the lack in improving games on the Wii. The 360 is bundled with Halo Reach nowadays, and COD MW3, not COD 2.

If we look at Mario Galaxy, it sold under 11 million. For a genre leading game, thats not very good performance when the difference in consoles sold is considered. 

What if we look at New Super Mario Bros? 

Also, let me ask another question.  Are we going by percentage of owners, here?  If so, what percentage of PS2 owners bought God of War 1 and God of War 2?  It had a HUGE userbase, right?  That was a "genre leading game" franchies, right?  I'm sure they both sold amazing numbers.  That's going by your rules, of course.


That was a bundled game as well...SSBB which wasn't heavily bundled (but still bundled beyond what is regarded as 'normal') sold 11 million. Again, considering volume of consoles sold, that's not great performance. 

Why are you comparing last gen sales to this gen? Game sales have been greater this generation so your comparison is flawed.



DieAppleDie on 10 May 2012

"Mario Kart has sold ~30 million which sounds good" ..........jesus christ.............

So Mario Kart Wii had a weak performance, Mario Galaxy had a weak performance, Zelda also, Metroid VERY weak................
The BIG question is,
Has Nintendo ever released a game that has performed well?(decent being beyond the 30m mark)



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Mazty on 10 May 2012
superchunk said:
Mazty said:

You're ignoring the audience it's aimed at. A game console should be sold for it's games, not for the controller. To sell on the controller is a fad. You don't buy a car because the seats are nice while ignoring the ride. 

A fad for gamers - a fad aimed at gamers. It's not a complex notion...Short-lived is relative though. Fashion fads last longer then playground fads as it depends on audience. 

Motion controls have been a big part of this gen, but that doesn't mean it isn't a fad. If motion controls are not adopted as the controls of the future, then motion controls are a fad as they are a one-hit (as in this gen) wonder.  The wii is a fad as it's not aimed for gamers. It offers nothing benefical to gaming, and therefore, is a fad. 


That is the craziest logic and biggest load of rubbish I've ever read on VGC... ever.

Motion controls have been copied by both major competitors and will be on all three next gen consoles. (100% for Nintendo/MS)

Wii's game library hit every genre. I know because I've bought one from each. Additionally, it has nothing to do with your skewed definition of a gamer.

Wii is a gaming console and aimed to make people want to play games. It did that very well. Its only fault was its hardware weakness as compared to its competitors and thus losing all AAA 3rd party support.

Furthermore, the motion controls in themselves and the idea that how you play is just as important as what you play is always a great benefit to gaming that is always pioneered by Nintendo.

Kinect sales would suggest it's a fad:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/327350/kinect-sales-pattern-unhealthy-ubisoft/

So what if  the wii had a game for every genre? If they didn't sell well, which they haven't, then it's not a console focused on core gamers. 
If the console is aimed at making people play games, why are game sales so low for non bundled games? 
What's the benefit of an inaccurate, high latency controller for gaming?



Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 on 10 May 2012
Pavolink said:
Mazty said:


That's half a sentence. Because games like Wii sports...what? And it's a bad joke calling wii sports and wii fit a game. Call of Duty is a game. Wii sports is as much a game as farmville. The Wii is a console made for casual gamers and that will cost Nintedo their audience for their next console.

Ok.

lol



Mazty on 10 May 2012
Soriku said:
There you have it folks. A game selling 11 million is a bad performance.


There you have it folks. When you have a weak argument, take a quote out of context in order to appear right. 



DieAppleDie on 10 May 2012

Let him live in his dreamworld where left is right and right is an apple........



Max King of the Wild on 10 May 2012

Wii was a fad.

someone said sony and microsoft copying them is proof it isnt a fad. on the contrary its proof it is a fad.