IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
UltimateUnknown said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
This makes sense if you assume that God is not almighty. If he is though, then he would know which decisions you will make (and would make in every possible situation).
Bolded: That's my point. Some people are born to go to hell.
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Pardon me, but I think you have the definition of almighty confused. You seem to be attributing almighty with the fact that God chooses everything and doesn't allow anyone to choose, while it is clearly stated that man is a special creation who do have the will to choose.
As for the hell comment, if we had a sealed fate then no one would be going to hell. For example animals who have a sealed fate will all go to heaven IIRC, none of the angels who also have a sealed fate (of serving god without question) go to hell. So if humans had a sealed fate then god would make the fate be such that it doesn't make them end up in hell because by definition god is the most merciful, the most loving, the most kind. Simply put there would be no evil. Hell is one of the direct consequences of free will and it is there (while in this life) to encourage you to steer clear of the evil deeds that free will presents you with. God knows best.
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That is false. God has given every man and woman the ability to choose whatever they'd like. But, if He really is almighty then he should be able to predict every single choice they make before they make them.
Underlined: Then why do some people spent their entire life in misery? That doesn't sound very merciful to me.
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Yes what you bolded is false lol, because I stated its false in the next phrase. It was to make a point.
As for the misery comment, it only seems unfair when you consider this world as the end and don't consider the afterlife. What you say is true, if god was indeed fair and merciful, why did he give us a life where we are able to eat food 3 times a day while there are people in the world who struggle to eat food even once a day? The answer to that is simple, in the afterlife every person will be judged accordingly to what kind of life that they were granted with and what kind of life that they chose to live. Someone who was incredibly rich and had a very easy life in this world will have a far harsher judgement as opposed to someone who lived their life in pain, misery and poverty. Such is to bring justice. And remember, the afterlife is eternal. In simple maths, infinity minus any number still gives you infinity, so the afterlife is far more important. Again, god knows best.
I actually really appreciate the civilized discourse of this thread, normally these threads tend to become religion bashing threads all too soon, and I have commend the OP keeping the scope of the discussion within good bounds.