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Porcupine_I on 04 May 2012

am i the only one who worries about having my hard drive getting too small, when i hear about digital downloads?

anyway, i wonder what kind of hard drive the Wii-U will have, and if Nintendo already has some kind of size restriction for the games in place.



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Viper1 on 04 May 2012
Porcupine_I said:
am i the only one who worries about having my hard drive getting too small, when i hear about digital downloads?

anyway, i wonder what kind of hard drive the Wii-U will have, and if Nintendo already has some kind of size restriction for the games in place.

Can't really have much of a size restriction if full retail games are going to be downloadable.



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Porcupine_I on 04 May 2012
Viper1 said:
Porcupine_I said:
am i the only one who worries about having my hard drive getting too small, when i hear about digital downloads?

anyway, i wonder what kind of hard drive the Wii-U will have, and if Nintendo already has some kind of size restriction for the games in place.

Can't really have much of a size restriction if full retail games are going to be downloadable.

 

that's the thing, if they are saying they will have their first party games for download day one, i kinda doubt that they will have any 25 GB titles or even larger in mind. more like 10 GB and less.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Viper1 on 04 May 2012
Porcupine_I said:
Viper1 said:
Porcupine_I said:
am i the only one who worries about having my hard drive getting too small, when i hear about digital downloads?

anyway, i wonder what kind of hard drive the Wii-U will have, and if Nintendo already has some kind of size restriction for the games in place.

Can't really have much of a size restriction if full retail games are going to be downloadable.

 

that's the thing, if they are saying they will have their first party games for download day one, i kinda doubt that they will have any 25 GB titles or even larger in mind. more like 10 GB and less.

Perhaps I should note that download size is always smaller than the HDD size because the game can be compressed for digital delivery.  So a 10 GB game on the disc won't be a 10 GB download.   But even if that comes out to be just a 5 GB download (figure just for debate purposes) you can't lock downloads to 5 GB because the games will get bigger.  Currently believed to be 25 GB per layer.  So it could go to 50 GB or even 75 GB if it's capable of triple layering.

My point is you don't want to lock down the download cap to a level equal to launch title file sizes because game sizes certainly will nto stay that small.



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DanneSandin on 04 May 2012

Man, Nintendo is setting up on epic E3 for us!!



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Sal.Paradise on 04 May 2012
Viper1 said:
Porcupine_I said:
Viper1 said:
Porcupine_I said:
am i the only one who worries about having my hard drive getting too small, when i hear about digital downloads?

anyway, i wonder what kind of hard drive the Wii-U will have, and if Nintendo already has some kind of size restriction for the games in place.

Can't really have much of a size restriction if full retail games are going to be downloadable.

 

that's the thing, if they are saying they will have their first party games for download day one, i kinda doubt that they will have any 25 GB titles or even larger in mind. more like 10 GB and less.

Perhaps I should note that download size is always smaller than the HDD size because the game can be compressed for digital delivery.  So a 10 GB game on the disc won't be a 10 GB download.   But even if that comes out to be just a 5 GB download (figure just for debate purposes) you can't lock downloads to 5 GB because the games will get bigger.  Currently believed to be 25 GB per layer.  So it could go to 50 GB or even 75 GB if it's capable of triple layering.

My point is you don't want to lock down the download cap to a level equal to launch title file sizes because game sizes certainly will nto stay that small.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them do multiple small(er) parts per game - Mario Universe part 1 (5gb), part 2(5gb), part 3(5gb) etc. The problem will be the HDD size itself, as you said, those third party games when unpacked will get rather large.



Viper1 on 04 May 2012
Sal.Paradise said:
Viper1 said:

Perhaps I should note that download size is always smaller than the HDD size because the game can be compressed for digital delivery.  So a 10 GB game on the disc won't be a 10 GB download.   But even if that comes out to be just a 5 GB download (figure just for debate purposes) you can't lock downloads to 5 GB because the games will get bigger.  Currently believed to be 25 GB per layer.  So it could go to 50 GB or even 75 GB if it's capable of triple layering.

My point is you don't want to lock down the download cap to a level equal to launch title file sizes because game sizes certainly will nto stay that small.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them do multiple small(er) parts per game - Mario Universe part 1 (5gb), part 2(5gb), part 3(5gb) etc. The problem will be the HDD size itself, as you said, those third party games when unpacked will get rather large.

I don't think they'll do that because that would be very confusing for people new to digital downloading.

As for HDD options, I suspect they'll allow for external HDD's.   Probably via a USB 3 connection.   The SD card option may be designed to keep files in their compressed state and decompress them to a high speed internal NAND storage for game use.  That would save a lot of space and make in game load times almost non-existent.



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d21lewis on 04 May 2012
KylieDog said:
wfz said:

Let's go in order:

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/26/wii-u-getting-user-accounts-as-part-of-nintendo-network/

First comes the news that they're making user accounts for the Nintendo Network so users on the Wii U won't have their downloads tied to the console, but rather the user account.


But will they allow multiple accounts per console and will DlC content be shared for all account holders?  On PS3 content is owned by an account, but any other account on the same console as the owning account can use it.  On 360 content is owned by an account but other accounts on same console cannot use it.

You've probably already been corrected but that last line is wrong.  I have two 360's.  If I buy the game on one 360, anybody can play it regardless of which profile they use. Anybody can play them offline, too. The other 360 can download the same game and I can play it on that second 360 but only if I'm logged in online and using the same Gamertag that bought the game.



leatherhat on 04 May 2012
the_dengle said:
badgenome said:
Welcome to 2002, Nintendo. Glad you could make it!

Sony and Microsoft aren't even offering full digital distribution on their home consoles now, much less 10 years ago. Nintendo is ahead of the game for once. When PS4 and 720 come out, we'll be welcoming Sony and Microsoft to 2012.

Sony already does this on Vita and its been on PC for a very long time. 



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d21lewis on 04 May 2012
leatherhat said:
the_dengle said:
badgenome said:
Welcome to 2002, Nintendo. Glad you could make it!

Sony and Microsoft aren't even offering full digital distribution on their home consoles now, much less 10 years ago. Nintendo is ahead of the game for once. When PS4 and 720 come out, we'll be welcoming Sony and Microsoft to 2012.

Sony already does this on Vita and its been on PC for a very long time. 

Yeah, somebody already pointed that out.  The key words are "Home consoles".  The thing is, there's probably hundreds of retail games on the 360 ready for download right now and quite a few PS3 retail games that are available for download, too.  The 360 has more retail titles but the PS3 has actually had titles ready for download the same day they hit retail.  With the 360, the downloadable titles are available maybe six months later.  And, like you said, the Vita and PC already had this feature.  Not sure what the_dengle is going with, here.

Of course, I personally would only download titles for a portable system so I wouldn't have to lug them around with me.  That's why I have so many titles saved to my Vita, PSP, and 3DS.  I'd never use this feature on a home console unless the were PSN/SEN, XBLA, or VC/WW bite sized titles of 2GB or less.