@Gnizmo:

Ok, let`s finish THIS in simple way.

1)

i am excited about KZ2, and YOUR reason is NOT enough for me to be NOT excited/hyped about KZ2. What other reasons you have, that would make me NOT be excited about KZ2?

2) What reasons you need to hear, to be excited about Kilzzone2?
Name them, what reasons would make you exicted about KZ2?

3) just for the records, or finishing blow - What BAD games where released from Guerilla games, after Sony bought that company and added new developers?

When did Sony buy them? I don't keep track of mediocre studios so I wouldn't know. I would guess though that Killzone and Killzone: Liberation both came after the buy-out. I have also explained why throwing developers at a game does not increase my confidence in the title.

I am only going to bother answering your questions for a third time if you show me evidence that you are actually reading them and answer the question I posed to you at least two times now.

This game has to be huge. People have waged whole arguments over the "Killer App" that will be Killzone 2. I hope it's good, cuz I want a reason to buy the PS3, but after playing Killzone 1, I was less than satisfied. Not to say that this game won't be big, but it's hyped because if it isn't PS3 fanboys wouldn't have much to hinge on their arguments for the PS3. They can't go to MGS or FF because of the exclusivity rumors, and GTA is already lost, so this is their bread and butter.

In 2005 -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_Games =)
Killzone came from GG alone, KZ:L came from GG+Sony.

So you won`t answer? =)) WHY? =))
JUST answer first 2 questions and we will END this thread. You don`t want that? Oh, then ok. =))
I`m done here.

I won't answer for two reasons. First you have dodged my question for 3-4 posts now, and secondly because I have answered your question twice already and you have skimmed over those posts and just asked the same question again. I will give you a freebie though and point out that Killzone: Liberation is just a mediocre FPS and was released after Sony bought the studio out. Very strong evidence that they continue to be a mediocre studio.

What evidence do you have that this gameplay of this game is amazing?

Just for the records:
95-100 - MASTERPIECE.
85-95 - GREAT GAME.
75-85 - GOOD GAME.
65-75 - average game.

IF YOU CARE ABOUT GAMING, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT CARE IS GAME GOT 90 OR 80. IT STILL WILL BE A GREAT GAMING EXPERIENCE.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/narutoriseofaninja?q=naruto
For example like Naruto: Rise of a Ninja(x360) got 78 on Metacritic, BUT MANY people STILL enjoyed THAT game, because it still a GOOD game(you can see that users gave 9.2 to that game).

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/931635.asp?q=killzone - 79%.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/psp/killzoneliberation?q=killzone - got 77on Metacritic, BUT MANY people STILL enjoyed THAT game, because it still a GOOD game(you can see that users gave 8.7 to that game).

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21490.html + http://www.gametrailers.com/game/1668.html What else you NEED to be convinced? What evidence do you need? =)

What would I need? Your open and honest review after playing the game in some form. After that I would be able to be convinced it is a blockbuster title. Yes, I know this is an impossible task right now, but that is my point. We do not know what the gameplay will be like, so we have to guess based on past experiences.

I also largely disagree with your scale, but that is a matter of personal preference. I figure any game that can't crack 80% average is a mediocre game at best. KZ: Liberations does come very close, but it still falls short.

But as promised I will answer your questions. The first answer is that I cannot convince you that the game is bad. I was never trying to really. I was trying to point out how extremely unlikely it is for the game to be a blockbuster title on the scale of MGS4 like it is being promoted by fanboys. I am super stoked for Culdcept Saga for example. I am consiering buying a 360 just for it. This is how deep my love runs for a video game series you have probably never even heard of, Peronsal preference is never something you can argue against.

As for what it would take for me personally to be hyped, well that is hard to say, It takes a lot to get me behind a FPS, but I have tried not to let that get in the way of my overall point here. It would take quircky and unique gameplay elements with a decent story and near perfect control and balance. To highlight how rare that is allow me to list the FPS games I feel are excellent and worth my time to play. Team Fortress 2, Golden-eye 007, and Perfect Dark.If we extend it to purely single player experiences we add Portal and Metroid Prime (only the first one). Again I must stress though that I am not trying to argue that the game will suck. It just won't be at the same level as all the hype wants it to be at.

Gnizmo said: I won't answer for two reasons. First you have dodged my question for 3-4 posts now, and secondly because I have answered your question twice already and you have skimmed over those posts and just asked the same question again. I will give you a freebie though and point out that Killzone: Liberation is just a mediocre FPS and was released after Sony bought the studio out. Very strong evidence that they continue to be a mediocre studio. What evidence do you have that this gameplay of this game is amazing?

 there is little evidence that any game will be amazing until u play it.  xbox fanboys got on ps fanboys for the cg, so when it turns out dam good they deserve to gloat.

soccerdrew17 said: Gnizmo said: I won't answer for two reasons. First you have dodged my question for 3-4 posts now, and secondly because I have answered your question twice already and you have skimmed over those posts and just asked the same question again. I will give you a freebie though and point out that Killzone: Liberation is just a mediocre FPS and was released after Sony bought the studio out. Very strong evidence that they continue to be a mediocre studio. What evidence do you have that this gameplay of this game is amazing?  there is little evidence that any game will be amazing until u play it.  xbox fanboys got on ps fanboys for the cg, so when it turns out dam good they deserve to gloat.

yeah you will never know if you like a game until you play it

SO, YOUR POINT, that people SHOULDN`T be hyped(EXCITED) about game, till it will be released? RIGHT?
That`s kinda lame, i would say. I saw some videos about game, i read some info, now i`m excited about the game, while you say, i shouldn`t be, till game is released.
YOU know what? It`s a matter of CHOICE to be or not to be excited about game.
but that is a matter of personal preference.


Guess what, i know some people, who think That Naruto x360 is 2007 GOTY - but that is a matter of personal preference.


So HOW anyone can convince YOU then? =)) It`s same thing. Unless like you said, you get a review - this is an impossible task right now.

The answer you seek:
That is a matter of personal preference TO BE HYPED ABOUT KILLZONE 2 OR NOT. =)

Have a nice day. =)