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After years of being interested  by RTS but always sucking at multitasking macro and micro( which is why I always ended playing the Total War games as there is no real time resources management there) I finally decided to give Starcraft 2 a shot and properly practice.

I've been watching a lot of replays and practiced against the AI on very hard.

I finished my 5 placement  games yesterday ( I never played any RTS against players before so those were my 5 first online games) and ended up in the platinum league.

I think I'm going to hurt a lot there as I believe I don't have the skill yet for that ( I'm probably more a mid gold player).

Anyway, who else plays Starcraft 2 here and what league are you in ?

I play terran by the way. I do very well in TvsT and suck at TvP, haven't done enough TvZ to know how I fare there...

 

PS : I have to say Starcraft 2 is very improved over Starcraft 1, they made it so that APM was less important by making units like SCV easier to manage and I am actually doing ok with my lowly 22 APM ( which should improve , I've only been playing for 10 days...)

 

 

 



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axumblade said:
I played once. Got rolled so hard that I never played it again.

We should play against each other! I suck too!



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axumblade said:
TruckOSaurus said:
axumblade said:
I played once. Got rolled so hard that I never played it again.

We should play against each other! I suck too!

I should be getting my new computer in a couple of weeks. So I'll consider it!

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Ajescent said:
I expected you to say the numbers were awful it needed to be spoken about.


not on gaming forum..



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

axumblade said:
I played once. Got rolled so hard that I never played it again.


There's a few basics tricks you can learn by watching a few videos and checking a few web sites...

Like hotkeying your army production units does wonder...( allows you to produce units in the middle of battle really fast)



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PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
axumblade said:
I played once. Got rolled so hard that I never played it again.


There's a few basics tricks you can learn by watching a few videos and checking a few web sites...

Like hotkeying your army production units does wonder...( allows you to produce units in the middle of battle really fast)

There's some other basic things like:

- Never stop producing worker units
- Spend your money as fast as you can (having over 1,000 minerals is bad, BAD!)
- Scout your opponent
- Never get supply blocked

All seamingly simple things but doing them perfectly all game long is very hard.



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TruckOSaurus said:
Ail said:
axumblade said:
I played once. Got rolled so hard that I never played it again.


There's a few basics tricks you can learn by watching a few videos and checking a few web sites...

Like hotkeying your army production units does wonder...( allows you to produce units in the middle of battle really fast)

There's some other basic things like:

- Never stop producing worker units
- Spend your money as fast as you can (having over 1,000 minerals is bad, BAD!)
- Scout your opponent
- Never get supply blocked

All seamingly simple things but doing them perfectly all game long is very hard.


Doing everything perfect takes a lot of time.

I know I always go for a quick gasless expansion and my minerals do go above 1000 in mid game but I still do ok. ( typically right after the second orbital is built I drop 2 mules and I can't keep up with my income because of supply blocks and too few barracks).

I don't scout either but sometime drops a scan. ( I'm not a the level where I can react to what the scout see so there isn't much point, I just go for standards counters, like I will build vikings against Protos around the 14 min mark because most likely they will have Colossus).

As long as you build a good economy and have defenses in place for early rush you will usually do ok 

Right now I won most games because my base could defend an 8-9 minute rush and because I had better upgrades than all my terrans opponents due to my quick expansion ( it's amazing the number of terrans that do not research early stim ( could be because they have problem microing it so they forego it..)).

The games I lost was either because I was facing someone much better than me at macroing or made stupid decisions ( Protos probe dropped a pilon in my main and he 4 gated me because I was so in the terran mindset that I didn't realize the 1 second the probe was out of my sight was enough to build a building, I'm used to SCV taking forever to do that...)

 

Right now I'm working on getting better SCV saturation ( I'm usually at 36-40 when I should be close to 50 on 2 bases), and spending the money faster ( means being less supply blocked and building more units productions buildings around the 10-12 min mark and capping my army a lot faster).. Progress is slow as the less I forget to build drones, the more the income, the harder it is to spend it fast...

I want to get faster medivacs too so that I can do some timed drops of stimmed marines but I usually forget to build the starport right after the factory ( I wish you could see a widget showing what is currently being produced like in replays...) 

I actually do better if there are early fights as those kill units and I'm decent at replacing them fast, especially when there is no supply issue due to some units dying...

 

I did practice a lot against the computer before going online.

If you can day in day out beat the AI on very hard in custom games, you will do fine in silver and gold league. The AI always goes for 1 base rush but it changes the kind of rush  in each game so you get to see everyone that can be thrown at you. Right now I crush Terrans on very hard, I have serious problems against Protos ( I hate the void rays/zealots attacks and I hate when the Protoss transition from Colossus to high templar and storms the shit out of me...) and I crushed Zerg in the only very hard game I did  despite a very poor bunker placement...

I'm going to start my platinum league games toonight and I expect to loose most of them but to learn a lot ( like I said I am surprised I was put there, I think my skills are more gold right now).



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Diamond Protoss here.

Just never stop making workers, spend your money and play defensive and you will be in Diamond pretty fast. Terran at a high level requires a lot of micro which is why I chose Protoss.

Have you looked at watching tournaments at all? SC2 is a better spectator sport than anything I have seen, they play for sometimes >$100,000 with professional commentary all for free.