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Nintendo needs to improve the graphics and art before release?

Yes, ALOT! 88 27.24%
 
Yes, kinda 49 15.17%
 
it's fine as it is 90 27.86%
 
Graphics, who cares? 76 23.53%
 
Sales are what matter, bring NSMB! 20 6.19%
 
Total:323

^You're a fake topic.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4532248

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4532279

I found the OP pretty funny, because happydolphin said that he will only buy NSMB2 for a bargain price. Just a few days earlier (in my Malstrom thread) he said what he wants from a new Super Mario Bros. game: high production values, awesomeness and a bargain price. Otherwise he won't buy.

No wonder that Nintendo didn't put more effort into it. They wouldn't have gotten happydolphin's money anyway.

@Rol, I bought Donkey Kong Country for 100$ when I was 11, I think I recognize and spend for a good game when I see one. Don't badger.

P.S. I hate you.



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^My point has nothing to do with sales.

And what's wrong with me is you're just making me always so angry.



happydolphin said:

^The question was, should I want it. I needed to discuss it with you guys, I was hoping that was okay.

Am I the only one in this dilemma, not sure if they want to buy certain Nintendo games anymore, not certain if I want my hopes strung up anymore?

Or am I the only one? Is this a boring topic?


No.  You should not want it.  There's a certain aspect of the game that doesn't live up to your standards.  Money is not to be wasted on things that don't please you.  You don't like the graphics.  Don't buy it.  Simple.

If you want a Mario game, Super Mario 3D Land is probably more of what you want.  If that game has levels that are too short or mechanics that are too dated, go for Rayman or Sonic Generations.  Hell, go for Cave Story.  The reason they made NSMB for the DS was that the main games had gotten too complicated for the older 2D audience.  Before NSMB, we hadn't had a 2D Mario platformer since 1995"s Yoshi's Island (If you want to count that one).  As soon as Mario went 3D, a lot of gamers said, "See ya later!" and never looked back.  It was an entirely new beast.  Mario was the franchise that Nintendo used to show what their console was capable of--the real Mario games, that is.  NSMB is the franchise to appease the older gamer that wants a new game.  It's supposed to be old school in graphics and gameplay!

You see games that are going for that retro feel like Cave Story, Super Meat Boy, Fancy Pants, etc.  Many of them go out of their way to feature 8-bit graphics.  NSMB could have gone that route, too.  Instead, it gives us a graphical updat to the classic gameplay style.  It's still not pushing the envelope and if it did, it would turn a lot of people off.  That's why the Wii U version isn't going to blow anybody away.  That's not the purpose of the series.  You can wish that it did things differently but you're looking for NSMB to give you something that it never will.

It would be like asking Halo to let you "aim down the sites"  like Call of Duty, asking Street Fighter to give you "Fatalities" like Mortal Kombat, or Tetris to have more shapes.  The graphics of NSMB are purposely that way.  Unfortunately, that graphcis style isn't for you.  Sorry.



happydolphin said:
@vic. At least that looked awesome. The end result wasn't as amazing...

Here, it looks bad, so it could be even worse... Then again as I said it could surprise us, so all the power to Nintendo, but even then they should do a better job catering to all markets rather than just the kiddy market.

Think Disney. If they can do it (like for instance Epic Mickey), then so can Nintendo. The worst part is, they already have... many times. Hopefully that was not from a time that has already dawned.

And that's what I want to know.


How it looked awesome for you?? It's the same "style" as every other mario game before! Just because it's 3D? Adding a perperctive doesn't change the style!

You got Mario in a grass field, a goomba, blue sky, question mark blocks, moving blocks (oh gawd, they're all the same size!!), and the rest. You'll notice nothing of this was discussed then - just the Racoon tail in the logo! Or small mario in a 3D game.



What I'm talking about is a game so good, it WILL sell. You said it yourself (damn you are such a hypocrite, it's incredible)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4521973
"The direction for awesomeness and the path for sales are one and the same. Only making new levels and adding Miis won't generate the same excitement as NSMB Wii which had simultaneous multiplayer going for it (which was a new experience; and no, other games don't count, because they don't have the fabulous physics of Super Mario Bros.). Nintendo needs to expand the game universe to maintain or increase the sales of the series. Stagnation and lack of ambition will be punished by the market, because people expect more from Nintendo."



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Vic, the quality of the graphics, simple. It doesn't matter the perspective, whether it's 2D or 3D. What matters is that they looked good.

How is this so damn complicated?



Nintendo, the masters of innovation and freshness.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

^Tell me about about it Abbath! Frig this reaks of rot if anything.



happydolphin said:
^Do the best they can with the hardware they have. Improve the details on the environments and enemies, I want less cheese.

Cheese is irrespective of platform, and I am not a fan of cheese. I don't play games for cheese, and I am a big game hunter, so do the math, yeah?


Resolution is different from graphics.  You're speaking of changing the art style and adding improvements to some of the textures.  By the way, constantly repeating "cheese" when no one else knows what you're talking about isn't exactly helping your case, either.



 

happydolphin said:

There's a big difference between quirkiness and cheesiness. I'll leave you the task of looking into them and thinking about them.

The smiles on the clouds, the rescuing the princess, the magic mushrooms, those are all quirky and stem from a more Oriental culture (mushrooms, right?). But what we have here is another thing altogether, and much too strongly brings to mind the idea of a quick buck, as pezus so well described.

I lol'd at this.