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Nintendo needs to improve the graphics and art before release?

Yes, ALOT! 88 27.24%
 
Yes, kinda 49 15.17%
 
it's fine as it is 90 27.86%
 
Graphics, who cares? 76 23.53%
 
Sales are what matter, bring NSMB! 20 6.19%
 
Total:323
Runa216 said:
It baffles me that people can't grasp a simple truth about gaming: graphics are there to present the rest of the game; that's all there is to it. Graphics help tell the story or give the game charm, they should not be the focus of the experience, but merely a pleasant cherry on top of an already good game; doubly so when it comes to Mario. We already know the story, we already understand the gameplay, there's absolutely no reason in the world to complain about perfectly charming graphics just because the game isn't utilizing the full power of the system it's on. That doesn't mean you can get away with the bare minimum, but a game like mario has always been about solid platforming and level design, no mario game (with the plausible exception of super Mario RPG) has ever been about stretching the boundaries of its respective hardware.

Frankly, if I'm going to complain about anything regarding New Super Mario Brothers 2, it's going to be about what I expect to be a shortage on levels. given the inevitably huge sales this game will get, it wouldn't kill them to take the time to add more levels, it'll still make a monstrous profit.

Graphics whores bother me.

@paragraph 1. I don't like the graphics, they are underwhelming, Nintendo could have done a better job. I think that's a fair statement.

@graphics being the cherry on top. I'll make you a game just like mario with great dynamics, and I'll make the main character a piece of Shit with a red hat, running across levels that look like their taken from a Chinese ripoff of mario kart. We'll see how much you enjoy it.

@bold. Yes, we will continue to butt heads because you do not cease to misconstrue my PoV. I realize the gameplay may have its flaws (not enough levels), I realize the importance of that. When I ask for a AAA game, I ask for it in all aspects. Sorry if my standards are a little higher than yours.

@the last sentence. You can imagine how many comebacks I can come back with. I'll spare you the shame.



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WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
miz1q2w3e said:
It looks fine.

How do you think they could improve it anyways? More polygons/higher resolution textures aren't going to make it look that much better imo


Just a different art style - kinda how SMB3 looked different to SMB (and SMB2 even more so)


I'm not sure if changing the art style is the right direction. NSMB has a certain artstyle, like Mario Galaxy has a certain art style. If they use a different art style it wouldn't be NSMB anymore it would be Super New Super Maro Bros! ;)

Aaaaaaw hells yeah!! BRING IT!!! SNSMB!!!!


Right!

Right you are good sir! Now, how to make it come true...



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Runa216 said:

But it's not just  a graphical minimum; based on the results of the poll here, I'm in the minority, butI happen to think the graphics are pitch-perfect for the overall tone of the game.  simple, effective...and the only ones who notice the jaggies are the graphics whores who take screenshots and look REEEEAL close! 99% of the people who play this game won't even notice the graphic infidelity.  

That's already been addressed here.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4532511

Read the thread.



DanneSandin said:
WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
miz1q2w3e said:
It looks fine.

How do you think they could improve it anyways? More polygons/higher resolution textures aren't going to make it look that much better imo


Just a different art style - kinda how SMB3 looked different to SMB (and SMB2 even more so)


I'm not sure if changing the art style is the right direction. NSMB has a certain artstyle, like Mario Galaxy has a certain art style. If they use a different art style it wouldn't be NSMB anymore it would be Super New Super Maro Bros! ;)

Aaaaaaw hells yeah!! BRING IT!!! SNSMB!!!!


Right!

Right you are good sir! Now, how to make it come true...

Here's some concept art:



pezus said:
If anyone cares about graphics he is always called a graphics whore...wow

I wonder if that ever was the case back in the 80's when comparing SMB and SMB3 :P

"But SMB3 has waaaay better graphics!"

*Gasp!*"You graphic whore!!"

it's so redundant



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WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
miz1q2w3e said:
It looks fine.

How do you think they could improve it anyways? More polygons/higher resolution textures aren't going to make it look that much better imo


Just a different art style - kinda how SMB3 looked different to SMB (and SMB2 even more so)


I'm not sure if changing the art style is the right direction. NSMB has a certain artstyle, like Mario Galaxy has a certain art style. If they use a different art style it wouldn't be NSMB anymore it would be Super New Super Maro Bros! ;)

Aaaaaaw hells yeah!! BRING IT!!! SNSMB!!!!


Right!

Right you are good sir! Now, how to make it come true...

Here's some concept art:

As long as you can choose between Mario, Luigi, Peach and whateverdude I'm happy :D



I'm on Twitter @DanneSandin!

Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

DanneSandin said:
WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
WiiBox3 said:
DanneSandin said:
miz1q2w3e said:
It looks fine.

How do you think they could improve it anyways? More polygons/higher resolution textures aren't going to make it look that much better imo


Just a different art style - kinda how SMB3 looked different to SMB (and SMB2 even more so)


I'm not sure if changing the art style is the right direction. NSMB has a certain artstyle, like Mario Galaxy has a certain art style. If they use a different art style it wouldn't be NSMB anymore it would be Super New Super Maro Bros! ;)

Aaaaaaw hells yeah!! BRING IT!!! SNSMB!!!!


Right!

Right you are good sir! Now, how to make it come true...

Here's some concept art:

As long as you can choose between Mario, Luigi, Peach and whateverdude I'm happy :D


Poor Princess Toadstool is gone forever, isn't she?



WiiBox3 said:


Poor Princess Toadstool is gone forever, isn't she?

With a name like that, who can blame her? :P



I'm on Twitter @DanneSandin!

Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

d21lewis said:
Sometimes, what you want isn't what's best for you.

Suppose Disney makes a new Mickey Mouse movie to appeal to a new fanbase. Mickey's clothes are rendered in beautiful CGI and so detailed, you could see the stitching in the fabric. His body was rendered so well, you could see the fur on his arm. He was in an environment that rivaled Avatar in its beauty. It would fucking suck.

2D Mario isn't about pushing a console to its limits. 2D Mario is about taking the game back to what made people fall in love with the 8-Bit games of their childhood. Simple graphics, fun gameplay, cheerful music, and familiar themes. 2D Mario is video game comfort food and we love it. We don't want it to change. I'm gonna love it, my kid is going to love it, and maybe even her kid will love it. Hell, my non-gaming cousins that played Mario when they were kids will probably enjoy it. Meanwhile the graphical beasts of today will WISH they had the longevity of a 2D Mario game.

You sir are one of kind. Never change please.



^But it isn't what we know and love, that's the whole issue I have.

And it really aggravates me that dedicated fans like D21 (who is on my 3DS friends list, we are friends I love his swapnotes) just don't get it.

If NSMB2 ends up winning my heart regardless of the graphics, then all the power to Nintendo, but as it is, the way these pics show, it is not the Mario we know and love from our childhood, it is a new one ridden with cheesy storylines, cheesy voice acting, CHEESY art on backgrounds, cheesy cheesy cheesy, I (censored) hate it.