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Stefan.De.Machtige said:
legend92(3) said:
HappySqurriel said:
While I'm sure there are a ton of Sony fans that will get defensive for saying this, with how many studios Sony has that produce games few people buy, Sony could eliminate between 1/3 and 1/2 of their developers and almost no one would notice. I don't think this would be a good approach, but I would suggest that Sony should probably look at consolidating as many of these studios as they can to try to concentrate talent and (hopefully) start producing games people care about.


This, they should just focus on their best performers, guerilla, ND, MM etc and then they can support them with better resources and market fewer games for higher sales. 20 games selling 1.5 million (30 million) vs 8 games selling 5 million each (40 million). with the latter costing a lot less.

It would be a bold move, but one i doubt Sony management would make.

Yeah. I will probably have to put on my flame suit here, but Sony should close their 1st party developers that just don't make profits. Team Ico would be a prime example. Ico and shadow of the colossus didn't exactly set the sales records on fire, and The last guardian has been in pre production since at least Jan 2008, a minimum of 4 years and 3 months, and judging by the leaked may 2009 gameplay trailer, at least some kind of higher production since may 2009, almost 3 years. And it still doesn't have a release date!



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Noshrunner said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
legend92(3) said:
HappySqurriel said:
While I'm sure there are a ton of Sony fans that will get defensive for saying this, with how many studios Sony has that produce games few people buy, Sony could eliminate between 1/3 and 1/2 of their developers and almost no one would notice. I don't think this would be a good approach, but I would suggest that Sony should probably look at consolidating as many of these studios as they can to try to concentrate talent and (hopefully) start producing games people care about.


This, they should just focus on their best performers, guerilla, ND, MM etc and then they can support them with better resources and market fewer games for higher sales. 20 games selling 1.5 million (30 million) vs 8 games selling 5 million each (40 million). with the latter costing a lot less.

It would be a bold move, but one i doubt Sony management would make.

Yeah. I will probably have to put on my flame suit here, but Sony should close their 1st party developers that just don't make profits. Team Ico would be a prime example. Ico and shadow of the colossus didn't exactly set the sales records on fire, and The last guardian has been in pre production since at least Jan 2008, a minimum of 4 years and 3 months, and judging by the leaked may 2009 gameplay trailer, at least some kind of higher production since may 2009, almost 3 years. And it still doesn't have a release date!


It doesn't strictly have to be based on profit ...

To pick numbers (more or less) at random, if Sony focused their attention on the top 10 most profitable games and the top 10 most critically acclaimed games of the year they would end up with 12 to 15 games being released every year that really added value to their platform; but Sony's push to have the most studios has resulted in a lot of developers who produce low quality unprofitable games that (really) doesn't help any of Sony's platforms.



I hope this doesn't effect how powerful the PS4 will be... :-/


I just learned something! before I cal Nintendo "Doomed" I should wait until they start firing people









    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

Roma said:
I hope this doesn't effect how powerful the PS4 will be... :-/

I just learned something! before I cal Nintendo "Doomed" I should wait until they start firing people

If Sony is smart, it should. They don't have any room to sell with a loss. None actually. 



In the wilderness we go alone with our new knowledge and strength.

Stefan.De.Machtige said:
Roma said:
I hope this doesn't effect how powerful the PS4 will be... :-/

I just learned something! before I cal Nintendo "Doomed" I should wait until they start firing people

If Sony is smart, it should. They don't have any room to sell with a loss. None actually. 

Sony smart? I see Sony as the guy who needs to show how strong he is even if he hurts himself in the process. But who cares as long as everybody ells thinks he is cool…

 

 

 





    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

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Roma said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
Roma said:
I hope this doesn't effect how powerful the PS4 will be... :-/

I just learned something! before I cal Nintendo "Doomed" I should wait until they start firing people

If Sony is smart, it should. They don't have any room to sell with a loss. None actually. 

Sony smart? I see Sony as the guy who needs to show how strong he is even if he hurts himself in the process. But who cares as long as everybody ells thinks he is cool…

 

A good analogy. When i began reading on VGChartz, it became clear to me that a gaming bussinesmodel is more about emotion then anything else.



In the wilderness we go alone with our new knowledge and strength.

The PS3 was supposed to be the most powerfull console when it was released but it never delivered and it still didnt make money either. As long as they keep saying it is the most powerfull console but it is so hard to programm the fanboys will buy it....



HappySqurriel said:
Noshrunner said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
legend92(3) said:
HappySqurriel said:
While I'm sure there are a ton of Sony fans that will get defensive for saying this, with how many studios Sony has that produce games few people buy, Sony could eliminate between 1/3 and 1/2 of their developers and almost no one would notice. I don't think this would be a good approach, but I would suggest that Sony should probably look at consolidating as many of these studios as they can to try to concentrate talent and (hopefully) start producing games people care about.


This, they should just focus on their best performers, guerilla, ND, MM etc and then they can support them with better resources and market fewer games for higher sales. 20 games selling 1.5 million (30 million) vs 8 games selling 5 million each (40 million). with the latter costing a lot less.

It would be a bold move, but one i doubt Sony management would make.

Yeah. I will probably have to put on my flame suit here, but Sony should close their 1st party developers that just don't make profits. Team Ico would be a prime example. Ico and shadow of the colossus didn't exactly set the sales records on fire, and The last guardian has been in pre production since at least Jan 2008, a minimum of 4 years and 3 months, and judging by the leaked may 2009 gameplay trailer, at least some kind of higher production since may 2009, almost 3 years. And it still doesn't have a release date!


It doesn't strictly have to be based on profit ...

To pick numbers (more or less) at random, if Sony focused their attention on the top 10 most profitable games and the top 10 most critically acclaimed games of the year they would end up with 12 to 15 games being released every year that really added value to their platform; but Sony's push to have the most studios has resulted in a lot of developers who produce low quality unprofitable games that (really) doesn't help any of Sony's platforms.


Well, seeing as a priority of Sony is now to turn a profit, as evidenced by huge job cuts to reduce costs, I feel it is mostly about profit. I see what you mean, where value added is also important, but games can be critically acclaimed and also be relatively quick to make; think of uncharted 1,2,3. They were in pre and post production for roughly 2 years and still sold well with great ratings. Team icos new game isn't even on schedule for 4 years, and let's be frank, I bet it will sell a lot less than uncharted. I'm just saying some games studios that have huge production times need to be closed or at least curtailed.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Kaz was supposed to turn around recent losses, so I guess you could say that he

 

*puts on sunglasses*

 

cut right to the chase.

 

YYYYEEEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol.



Yay!!!