"I think every self-respecting gamer knows this. Self-respecting lovers of cheesy movies may still love Kojima's work though. "

Original post before the edit.

That MGS5 movie joke is old. And I don't know why you assume fans of a certain type of work are not "self-respcting".

Yeah, MGS games are fantastic!!

Yeah, I have to agree unfortunately.

"...the recent ones are tedious, riddled with bad writing, bad story-telling, and bad control."

I wholeheartedly agree with this statement.

MGS4 is one of the best games of this gen. These self-important nobody developers really have to learn some humility, shit. When your most famous work is porting someone elses work, just shut up, seriously.

never played a MGS so I wouldn't know

The original MGS was quite exceptional. After that...the series kind of goes off the rails.

He is correct at least for trying to knock these indie developers down a peg. Real developers don't need to cloak themselves in the mystique of being "indie."

Very true. I loved MGS and I've replayed it a few times which I rarely do with games. MGS 2 lost me with the vampire and GW and all the crazy stuff. By the end of MGS 2 I felt more more like I was playing out of obligation rather than having fun. MGS 3 lost my interest with the whole camo thing and the even more convoluted story. I never finished MGS 3 and I haven't played a MGS since.

I am looking forward to MGS Revengence. I never hated Raiden like most people and the fast paced action look like fun. The story looks dumb, but I haven't liked a MGS story since the first.

well i'm not really a fan of MGS4.