Sorry, HS franchise is now owned by sony anyway, and Naughty Dog is 1st party, its Insomniac that say they are 100% independent from Sony (but I don't quite believe that)
Game_boy said:
MP3 made a profit. Lair didn't. Equally hardcore games; but at least the Wii game was profitable. |
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They release crap games on the Wii because people buy them. I am not saying the Wii deserves crap games, but if people buy them then what motivation is their for a developer to put its more experienced devs (which seem to be used on PC/360/PS3 games where programming is more difficult and the audience expectations are higher) on Wii games?
If people buy cheaply made crap, then you can expect more cheaply made crap. The Wii will probably get more big-budget titles in the future though. Suikoden VI and Kingdom Hearts (both unconfirmed) for instance.
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@Game_boy
I agree with 3rd parties being stubborn, but I see some problems in your post:
Ubisoft is making money on every platform. They are very happy with sales on the HD consoles. The money they get from the crap they release on the Wii is a bonus.
Capcom should not be included in this example. Lost Planet and Dead Rising sold really well, however Capcom is not very happy with its sales. They wasted trucks of money in development and ads, they were expecting better sales. Devil May Cry 4 and RE5 are victims of their short sightedness. It is too late to go back. Why do you think most of they HD games are multiplatform? Because they do not think they may sell enough with exclusivity (like in the PS2). Zack and Wiki, RE UC and RE 4 are all great/good games and they are charging a lot less than the average crappy port. Monster Hunter 3 show that Capcom is really happy with sales and has faith in the Wii.
Konami so far, is not a big player this generation. Both games mentioned are still being developed. Their offerings have been "meh" in all consoles.
EA is losing money everywhere (that makes me happy). Maybe they are breaking even on the Wii.
Sega is as clueless as Square Enix. I can not find logic in their actions.
I understand your frustration. If these companies chose to ignore the Wii, they will lose great opportunities. Other companies will fill their roles. For example, that piece of shit we call Red Steel sold really well. Should Ubisoft release another one soon, it would sell well. Mainly because there are few FPS on the Wii and the guys that bought the original expect major improvements. If another company releases a great Wii FPS before Red Steel 2, I bet that its sales would take a big hit and Ubisoft will have to raise their quality standards.
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Game_boy used some awkard examples there, but his point is still valid. 3rd party developers struggle to make a profit on the Ps3, but still they release a lot of "big" games (games with high production values) for the platform, while the Wii gets the trash. 3rd parties make LOTS more profit on the Wii then they will ever make on the PS3.
So I guess the Wii does deserve a couple of high quality third party games. I think a couple will be announced halfway this year. It takes time to change the business plan, so give it time.
| ItsaMii said: Capcom should not be included in this example. Lost Planet and Dead Rising sold really well, however Capcom is not very happy with its sales. They wasted trucks of money in development and ads, they were expecting better sales. |
Where did you get that information? Capcom openly stated that they needed 700k in sales to break even on Lost Planet... A number the game eclipsed quickly because in late January, it had reportedly sold around 1m copies (it launched in early January).
I don't see how Capcom is upset about that.
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Lets see, cuz they're a business, and take profits from one part and invest in others, and then take profits from there and invest it back? What, do you think, their HD divisions are just hemorrhaging cash and saved by the Wii division? I'm sure Ubisoft is kicking themselves in their nuts for doing Assassins Creed instead of Red Steel 2. Hint: Wii development isn't the holy grail that it's being made out to be. You can still make alot of money on the 360/PS3, which is why companies think it's worth the risk developing for them. This isn't philanthropy or a contest to see who has the bigger dick, they wouldn't be doing it the way they are if they didn't think they can make money. Because that's all they care about in the end.
I don't think you realize how long it takes to develop a game. Both the PS3 and Wii launched a little over a year ago and what was anticipated was that each console would perform on par with it's predecesor. That information was the only information developing studios had to go on when planning a game. So they made their decisions and put out a lineup. Some of those games decided upon before the release of either console are actually still in development and slated for release this year maybe even next.
Now the consumer has come in an affected the market. Developers now have sales figures to determine their lineups and their future directions. If they see a large market most likely they will want to capitalize on it. I don't think the PS3/360 titles you mentioned bombed but they were for the most part more expensive to create than their Wii counterparts. Less profitable maybe.
With Wii's explosive growth, developers can't make the mistake of not realizing a growing market, where the competition isn't as intense as on the 360.
Because if the game does turn out to be a success on the PS3/360 the developer is practically guaranteed a hefty profit from that game and every sequel they churn out after.
This is a bit conspiratorial, but gaming companies have at large (with the exclusion of Nintendo) had one dream and one only. To make games with life-like realism. I don't think they care what the cost is. This is all they've ever wanted. If they can break even on next-gen games with Wii funding, I don't think it matters that much. All these companies already have multi millions or billions in the bank. It's not like they're in any danger of running short of cash. I mean, seriously..
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