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Zlejedi said:
z101 said:

Its seems obvious that a portable COD would be a massive success

Obvious? No. COD games are for the big consoles not for handhelds. By the way: The DS got some CoD-Games. I think the 3DS will get some too. And the Vita will get a CoD-Game if the sales get better in US.

The only things that would save the Vita are a much lower price of Hardware and games. And a bunch of good games. But none of that is beeing in sight. 

When will people understand that shitty dumbed down ports of CoD for previous gen handhelds cannot be compared to possibly nearly identical to PS3 version Vita CoD ?

For some reason some here seem to want Vita to fail and do not even look at the facts. This thread is a joke. Vita will be fien like the PSP was, it vcertainkly has way betetr word of mouth, have yet to talk to someone that wasn't impressed once they played one.



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theprof00 said:

File management. All photos should be capable of direct upload to a photobucket like server application. Make it super easy to take in game and out game pictures and upload them instantly without the hassle of navigating around online to do it.

Have you installed flicker app ?

I can have screenshot from Vita online in few seconds

 

Rest was good read.



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Zlejedi said:
theprof00 said:

File management. All photos should be capable of direct upload to a photobucket like server application. Make it super easy to take in game and out game pictures and upload them instantly without the hassle of navigating around online to do it.

Have you installed flicker app ?

I can have screenshot from Vita online in few seconds

 

Rest was good read.

Huh, thanks for the tip, and the comment :D.



Blacksaber said:
Include 10 GB of porn on the Vita it will sell bucket-loads, but if Nintendo decides to adapt my idea of 3D porn then the Vita is doomed with no chance of redemption.

Then Sony can save Vita by adding 3D. No longer doomed!



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

VicViper said:

I believe Resident Evil (both of them) and Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney were revealed a long time before the 3ds launch. And there's talk of Ace Attorney 5 and a new Resident Evil. And of course, the whole Megaman Legend imbroglio, which was canceled due to mysterious reasons.

And now so far, 3 months after release, we have nothing on Vita from them. So, no, it's not really the same situation.

You're right though... they don't feel obligated, but Sony should make them feel obligated ($$$) to support Vita.

Capcom announced Revelations before the launch, but that's pretty irrelevant seeing as how the game was just released last month almost a year later. 

It was actually one of the initial titles that sold me on the 3DS, but in retrospect, why bother buying a new platform for a game that's announced a year in advance?

As of now, almost one year after launch, Capcom has three titles on the 3DS in the Western market. Three. 

It won't take much effort on their part to give the PSV the same amount of support at minimum. 



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Squilliam said:
teigaga said:
Squilliam said:

Actually they shouldn't even try to serve two masters. They can't please everyone and based off the price and market strategy they haven't decided to. They know the whiny hardcore gamer will buy it regardless because it is the only game in town for that crowd, they can poop on people as much as they want and the hardcore gamers will call it fertilizer to grow games from. So for that reason alone the price of the memory cards etc is pretty good.So effectively they need to give lipservice to these people whilst directing the rest of their resources aside from a few token efforts towards marginal customers whom could go either to an iPod Touch or 3DS.

 

 


I personally don't think  the majority of the hardcore market need a dedicated portable gaming system, therefore sony can't assume their safe. I haven't bought a Vita yet, the cards are a bloody rip off... but that doesn't mean that i drift the the ipod touch, i already own one and the experience is not comparable, therefore my ownership is not exclusive one or the other. The 3DS is the actual competition but i think theres a strong enough difference in tastes for both to coexist. The marginal  customers you refer to would probably make up the majority of any system which manages to sell more then 30m.

Huh? I can't really understand what you're arguing for/against.

 

I'll clarify. "They know the whiny hardcore gamer will buy it regardless because it is the only game in town for that crowd" No, i think theres a risk a strong portion of this market will simply skip Hardcore portable gaming completely, i consider myself a core gamer but missed out on last gen portables. I had planned on buying a Vita at launch but various things put me off, pricing of cards is one of them. I indend to buy it in the future but if behaviour is common in regards to being put off early adoption, devleopers may stay clear of the system,  which will cause me to loose interest in purchasing it at all and thus the systems sale fall  further. So i don't they can afford to "poop" on people. 

I think i may of mis interpreted the last paragraph of your comment, so ignore my response to that.



greenmedic88 said:
VicViper said:

I believe Resident Evil (both of them) and Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney were revealed a long time before the 3ds launch. And there's talk of Ace Attorney 5 and a new Resident Evil. And of course, the whole Megaman Legend imbroglio, which was canceled due to mysterious reasons.

And now so far, 3 months after release, we have nothing on Vita from them. So, no, it's not really the same situation.

You're right though... they don't feel obligated, but Sony should make them feel obligated ($$$) to support Vita.

Capcom announced Revelations before the launch, but that's pretty irrelevant seeing as how the game was just released last month almost a year later. 

It was actually one of the initial titles that sold me on the 3DS, but in retrospect, why bother buying a new platform for a game that's announced a year in advance?

As of now, almost one year after launch, Capcom has three titles on the 3DS in the Western market. Three. 

It won't take much effort on their part to give the PSV the same amount of support at minimum. 

3 games, including 2 original games in a year is great. Not only that, there's two big ones (may I say HUGE ones) coming this year probably (MH 4 and Ace attorney vs prof. layton) and of course the localization of MH Tri G, which surprisingly has a chance of reaching west before the PSP version

But you answered yourself... if capcom took more than a year to release an announced game, how much it'll take to release an unannouced one?



Nem said:
teigaga said:
Does anyone else think that Morrowind could be a massive deal or is it just me?


The question you have to ask is: Given that Skyrim sold 5 millions or more,  wouldnt bethesda choose to remake Morrowind on that same group of consoles? I think they would, its a garanteed sucess.

Now, a Vita port of the game might've been possible, but an exclusive isnt going to happen. Bethesda would have to be financially insane or make just a simple port of the Xbox version and not a remake.

yeah, i'm suggesting more of a upgraded port but a an entire remake. New interface and some graphical enhancements. Also i'm suggesting that sony invest money in securing the exclusives mentioned, i feel it would be well worth the cost and price of bethesda porting the game to Vita wouldn't be substantial, so i see no reason why Sony would have to shell out tons of cash.

Theres been a number of MODs released in the last 3 years which improve morrowind's visuals up to a PSV standard, i don't have a great understanding of how it works but could bethesda not acquire them? If so i think its would make the process even cheaper.



VicViper said:

3 games, including 2 original games in a year is great. Not only that, there's two big ones (may I say HUGE ones) coming this year probably (MH 4 and Ace attorney vs prof. layton) and of course the localization of MH Tri G, which surprisingly has a chance of reaching west before the PSP version

But you answered yourself... if capcom took more than a year to release an announced game, how much it'll take to release an unannouced one?

They'll release ports like SF X Tekken without much pre-hype. It's already been announced. The PSV lends itself well to fighting games as already shown by Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom. 

And don't even use the words "original", "great" and RE: The Mercenaries in the same sentence. I happen to be one of the minority who actually enjoyed the game, but it is what it is; a $40 game that was little more than an extension of an extra play mode in RE4 and RE5 and everyone acknowledged this. It was clearly a case of Capcom releasing something fast just for extra sales during the launch window. 

The reality is it took Capcom the better part of a year to release one solid title in RE: Revelations. Great game, but it was one game in one year. 



Mr Khan said:
DQX is not going to any non-Nintendo platform in the foreseeable future. Nintendo's got a publishing deal for the West going, no way SE would give that up.

Oh, i didn't know that publishing deal extended to the DQX. I guess that does rule out a Vita port.

But looking at DQ IX sales i say it would be in SE best interest to except any deal Sony offers for a multi-platform release and drop nintendo as the publisher, hell i even feel it would be in Nintendo's best interests. Nintendo Spent insane amounts of money advertising DQ9 in the west, yet its sales fall short of DQVIII which was on PS2 with virtually no marketing budget behind it. Both titles sold just over 1m (NA/EU) but DQVIII by a larger margin. The Wii will be a dead platform by time of the games release and Wii U will barely have a userbase, for a game which has been in development for 4 years the platforms for release don't present much of a sales a return. I wouldn't rule out the potential that a Vita DQ would sell more copies over here then a Wii DQ would. Unless there are legal ramifications, i honestly think Sony should literally throw SE all their money get themselves a killer app for Japan and a nice addition to the western library.