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Well, this is business. Companies would use profits from other franchises to expand. There is no such thing as console "loyalty".



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Musouka said:
Well, this is business. Companies would use profits from other franchises to expand. There is no such thing as console "loyalty".

 Not true.

Companies have benefitted greatly in the past from their games going exclusively to one console because it says to the dedicated fanbase that you're pandering specifically to them. DoA on the Xbox is a good example of this.

Note that Sonic:SR for Wii outsold both versions of STH2006 on the PS360 combined. If Sega would just focus on Sonic Wii games, it's pretty clear that they'd be far better off.

I mean, Secret Rings was a decent game, but it had plenty of flaws and yet it still sold better than the alleged "main" game which wasn't brought to the Wii.

If Sega were to focus all of their efforts on making a solid Sonic title on JUST the Wii, I'm sure it will outsell Secret Rings by a substantial margin.

I'm not expecting Sega to not bring the olympic license to other consoles (though I doubt it'll sell well), but I am miffed that this version gets online play and M&S doesn't. 



"I mean, c'mon, Viva Pinata, a game with massive marketing, didn't sell worth a damn to the "sophisticated" 360 audience, despite near-universal praise--is that a sign that 360 owners are a bunch of casual ignoramuses that can't get their heads around a 'gardening' sim? Of course not. So let's please stop trying to micro-analyze one game out of hundreds and using it as the poster child for why good, non-1st party, games can't sell on Wii. (Everyone frequenting this site knows this is nonsense, and yet some of you just can't let it go because it's the only scab you have left to pick at after all your other "Wii will phail1!!1" straw men arguments have been put to the torch.)" - exindguy on Boom Blocks

StarcraftManiac said:

Whaha, this thread is pathetic...

 

That game, Beijng 2008 was already announced as 'on the way' when the Wii and the PS3 weren't even out yet... Though no info ever came out... Now that the platforms are supposedly X360 and PS3 doesn't mean that they are backstabing Nintendo, nor the Wii...


 It was announced to come to wii as well and sega decided not too why?

next to that this game has online play the wii version they never even thought about putting it in While the online part is going very well atm ( moh heroes for example) 



 

 

 

 

ssj12 said:
StarcraftManiac said:
ssj12 said:
they should port Mario and Sonic to the PS3/360/PC. Make even more cash.

How to get Mario&Sonic on X360/PS3/PC when Mario is like the biggest license Nintendo owns?...


there are Mario based PC games. Like Mario Teaches Typing. As for the other consoles. idk.. I figure Nintendo would want to pull cash off of their rival consoles. lol


If Nintendo wanted to earn cash on other consoles (not from them) they'd be a 3rd-party developer...

And why didn't they make it earlier then?... This ain't happening dude!... You won't EVER see Mario on X360 or PS3... They aren't SEGA, Nintendo is WAY bigger and has enough cash to survive! 



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I can't understand people being upset about this. Olympics games are almost always terrible. Who cares? When you shove a big pile of events together with simplistic gamepad controls, it is NOT a recipe for compelling gameplay. The only reason the Wii version works better is due to the unique control system.

This game will almost certainly be mediocre and uninteresting. And no doubt, it has been planned ever since the Olympics license was obtained and has nothing to do with the profits of M&S.

Again, who cares?



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A real olympic game.. it'll be like a real soccer game.. *YAWNNN* if it doesn't have Mario in it, it won't be very fun.



densiyrex said:
StarcraftManiac said:

Whaha, this thread is pathetic...

 

That game, Beijng 2008 was already announced as 'on the way' when the Wii and the PS3 weren't even out yet... Though no info ever came out... Now that the platforms are supposedly X360 and PS3 doesn't mean that they are backstabing Nintendo, nor the Wii...


It was announced to come to wii as well and sega decided not too why?

next to that this game has online play the wii version they never even thought about putting it in While the online part is going very well atm ( moh heroes for example)


Ok, ur messing up...

Let me clarify:

Bejing 2008 was NEVER announced for Wii... Ign noted it something like this: we expect blablabla... that this game, although it hasn't officialy been announced for any specific platform will be released on this system (systems that were noted: Gba, DS, PsP, Ps2, Mac, Vista PC, X360, PS3, Wii. But that was just assumption of them, there was never a real announcement!... 

So, they aren't screwing Nintendo...

 

And btw: Why bring out Bejing 2008 (that's dumbed down from the X360/PS3 counterparts) that won't sell cuzz there already is another version with Mario in it on Wii? People would choose the version with Mario in it... 



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If Sega were to focus all of their efforts on making a solid Sonic title on JUST the Wii, I'm sure it will outsell Secret Rings by a substantial margin.


But that doesn't take into account that the "main" game was the worst insult to Sonic fans since ever.  Even Shadow the Hedgehog was a masterpiece by comparison.

If they let the main Sonic Team, which is as much Sonic Team as Rare is DKC Rare, at it, it could be an even bigger embarrassment.

I agree with your point, though.  The Sonic market is definitely better on Wii.

SEGA is just using the Olympics license.  Anybody who expects it to be better than M&S is just biased to HD and human models.  Note that Miyamoto supervisd M&S which is getting the best reviews and word of mouth Sega has had in a while, if you ignore the reviews and people who bitch about Wii controls and OMG CASUALS.



This is such a silly thread. Is the thread starter actually angry that Sega is making an olympics game for the 360 and ps3? Did he really expect Sega to get the Olympics licence and then not use it on every system?

Or does he actually feel that this button mashing olympics game will be better than the massive selling mario and sonicing wii motioning olympic game?

I mean really, I can't find a single reason in this thread to be angry at Sega or to think that they're giving Wii owners the short end of the stick.

What I WOULD like to know however, is what exactly Sega is giving Nintendo in return for getting to use mario in they're olympics game. I'm sure They've discussed the future of Sega/Nintendo relations and how this game might impact that.



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Not to be rude, but there are management problems within Sega which seem to push the company away from profits; this is as true today as it was when they were manufacturing hardware. Mario and Sonic at the olympics and Sonic and the Secret Rings have been the two most successful Sega games in 2007, and most of Sega's Wii games (with some exceptions) have performed reasonably well (in comparison to how most Sega games sell). Of all companies on the market, Sega should see the Wii as an opportunity to return to its roots of producing high quality original games that made them the biggest competitor to Nintendo back in the day.