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UltimateUnknown on 29 February 2012

Ho boy, here comes a trillion pages of fanboys arguing about how Reggie is incorrect about Nintendo being the first to come up with touchscreen/motion controls/rumble/dual analog and how some unknown company in some distant galaxy had indeed made them first, but failed to get commercial success.



 

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Kangi on 29 February 2012

He's sort of this odd mix between straight-talking normal guy, and a PR department's puppet. A bit unnerving, really.



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Bossman112 on 29 February 2012

Lol he is right. and if people think that Sony or MS dont care what Nintendo is doing you are delusional fanboys or just morons.



thekitchensink on 29 February 2012
Seece said:
thekitchensink said:
Seece said:
errorpwns said:

How is it arrogant?  I mean he is telling the truth.  Unlike Sony and Microsoft who take obvious hate jabs at each other and want to attack Nintendo in every other commercial, Nintendo plays it fairly neutral and continues to focus on Nintendo.  That's where it matters.  Smart business practice.  Wonder why Nintendo was able to make profit while only selling 21 million gamecubes?  They focused on Nintendo not Microsoft, not Sony, but Nintendo. 


Is this why they're adopting Apps and HD and finally courting third parties and generally behaving like MS then?


1) Apps: Nintendo has been attempting downloadable  games since 1987 http://www.n-sider.com/contentview.php?contentid=213

2) HD: Really?  You're going to say they're copying by making a system that's more powerful than their previous one?  I suppose the Xbox was just a copy of the PS2, and the Super Nintendo was a copy of the Genesis.

3) Third parties: They tried to court them with the Wii as well.  Admittedly, their attempts didn't work very well and they're doing it better with Wii U and 3DS, but the intention was always there.

 

Nintendo is certainly copying their competitors in some necessary areas, such as the recently announced Nintendo Network, but those were not the best examples at all.

What has downloadable games got to do with apps?

There is nothing wrong with Nintendo going to HD, and in itself it isn't copying, it's the lingo they keep using. They're very aware it's a major selling point (like the once argued it wasn't) and hence why reggie is coming out with 1080p like he has a clue what it means.

I don't believe they tried courting third parties tbh.

The main things they're focusing on right now are key areas of MS and Sony's strategy.


Fair enough.  When you said 'apps', I figured you meant game apps such as Infinity Blade or Angry Birds.  With regard to the HD thing, it's not that they didn't think it was a selling point, but when the Wii launched they didn't think there were enough HDTVs in the market yet for it to be worth the extra cash.

Thanks for the reasoned response!  Is it wrong of me that I automatically assumed that I would be flamed, this being the Internet and all? XD



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mjk45 on 29 February 2012

None of the company's have their head in the sand when it comes to their competitors , they look at what each one is doing and it's affect on the market as a whole and most importantly their part in it , the truth is all three have had a positive effect on the market and have at one time or another been the hand at the wheel , driving the industry forward.



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happydolphin on 29 February 2012
Seece said:

I don't believe they tried courting third parties tbh.

Nintendo did alot to court 3rd parties, but you're right to say that Nintendo is following more MS' style nowadays , going after western devs (Rock*, Ubi) and dishing out for moneyhats (MH).

In terms of Nintendo courting 3rd parties in the past, the GC/GBA era was a huge step for Nintendo, even though it failed. A few efforts were:

  • The Capcom 5
  • Lending the Zelda IP to Capcom for Oracle of Ages & Seasons
  • Lending the Star Fox IP to Namco for SF Assualt
  • Lending F-Zero to Sega for GX/AX, and even creating a 3-way partnership for the Triforce (Nintendo, Namco, Sega, GC -> Arcade) technology.
  • Lending Link for Namco's SC II (GC Edition).
  • Working with Square-Enix on FF: Crystal Chronicles (with GBA-GC compatibility)
Though this isn't courting, it shows Nintendo's appreciation of 3rd party offerings:
  • Nintendo forms Browny Brown, composed of many ex-square employees
  • Nintendo works with Mistwalker to develop The Last Story, and a few DS games (Blue Dragon I believe)
  • Nintendo bought Monolith Soft from Namco, the studio was founded by an ex Square producer.
Other notes:
  • Sonic and Snake join the fray in Nintendo's hit fighter Super Smash bros.
These are just a few points, I know there are more documented, and even some happening behind the scenes.


ethomaz on 29 February 2012

Just one thing about Brasil...

Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo sells everything here... the official Vita launch here is tomorrow (only two week after US release).



Wagram on 29 February 2012

Can you count how many times he says "Uhh"?



menx64 on 01 March 2012
Seece said:
errorpwns said:

How is it arrogant?  I mean he is telling the truth.  Unlike Sony and Microsoft who take obvious hate jabs at each other and want to attack Nintendo in every other commercial, Nintendo plays it fairly neutral and continues to focus on Nintendo.  That's where it matters.  Smart business practice.  Wonder why Nintendo was able to make profit while only selling 21 million gamecubes?  They focused on Nintendo not Microsoft, not Sony, but Nintendo. 


Is this why they're adopting Apps and HD and finally courting third parties and generally behaving like MS then?


microsoft invented the apps, hd & 3rd party deals confirmed!  

 All companies adopt successful business practices, I can not see why any of the three would be any different.



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PlaystaionGamer on 01 March 2012
superchunk said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
i don't think Sony or Microsoft are going to worry about what he does.. lol
guy is just talking like a puppet, he will have to clean his chin more often for me to take notice.. Whats wrong with him?


Anyone who thinks that MS and Sony don't strongly consider and worry about Nintendo when considering their respective gaming businesses is very narrow minded and delusional. Especially after Sony and MS blatantly copied Nintendo's path into motion and casual gaming space.

I guarantee you without a doubt MS and Sony watched WiiU's unfolding last E3 very carefully and then had many meetings regarding tablet controllers based on their existing plan for their next consoles and progression of Kinect and Move respectively. Additionally, their planned power levels (cpu/gpu) are definitely taking into consideration of what they think Nintendo as well as each other are doing.

Even if Reggie and Nintendo by large brush off talks about competitors as if they don't care, that's just PR. They do and will always keep them in mind to some degree.


read what you highlighted, i stand ferm with Sony and MS dont care what HE does, i didnt say Nintendo.