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super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
and gamers can't enjoy cars?

 ioi and artofangels say hi.


 Well then tell Bruce that



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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Avinash_Tyagi said:
super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
and gamers can't enjoy cars?

ioi and artofangels say hi.


Well then tell Bruce that


 I think we should leave the guy alone.

He came here with the trappings of a journalist and so we gave him a lot of attention.

By now we know he is just pushing a certain agenda and loves to get some of you riled up.  Let him have his predictions and his opinions....there's no way he is going to change his mind...or yours.

 



super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
and gamers can't enjoy cars?

ioi and artofangels say hi.


 I say hi, I love cars more than games.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sorry dude, these sound like gamers, not everyday consumers, I took my Wii home with me for the holiday, and now my parents, my sister and my uncle, all of who don't care much for games if at all, are now all buying a Wii, those are the everyday consumers that are being won over to the Wii, none of them care one bit about PS3 or 360, and all of them thought the Wii graphics were amazing

 Yeah, yeah, we've heard the story of your Wii-fanatic family before. Try making a Norwgian family play, or heck; try asking them whether they know what the hell a Wii even is! They don't, but odds are, they'll know about 360 and PS3. You see Avinash, not everywhere on the globe is the same as your living room.



Mummelmann, the fact is that Wii is a lot more knowwn everywhere than ps3 or x360 due to the fact that is more casual oriented, you cant deny that. Most people do know about wii.



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being part of a motorcycle forum, i can tell you that a lot of people are probably heavy into video games, guns, other "guy" things. So no, they are not in any way a balanced discussion of video games.

Without even reading what was written I'd venture to guess they will be disproportionately leaning towards PS3/Xbox360.




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super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
and gamers can't enjoy cars?

ioi and artofangels say hi.


Well then tell Bruce that


 I think we should leave the guy alone.

He came here with the trappings of a journalist and so we gave him a lot of attention.

By now we know he is just pushing a certain agenda and loves to get some of you riled up.  Let him have his predictions and his opinions....there's no way he is going to change his mind...or yours.

 


I’m just annoyed with how arrogant he is even though he is sloppier and has less insight than a lot of members of this site.



HappySqurriel said:
super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
and gamers can't enjoy cars?

ioi and artofangels say hi.


Well then tell Bruce that


 I think we should leave the guy alone.

He came here with the trappings of a journalist and so we gave him a lot of attention.

By now we know he is just pushing a certain agenda and loves to get some of you riled up.  Let him have his predictions and his opinions....there's no way he is going to change his mind...or yours.

 


I’m just annoyed with how arrogant he is even though he is sloppier and has less insight than a lot of members of this site.

Especially the ones with thousands of posts.

 



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reading that site only reinforces the wii winning argument

u have the people on there that are into streaming movies, putting linux on the ps3, buying multiple consoles, etc

then u have the people who are more casual talking about how wii is more fun and better for multiplayer...and about guys who bought their wife a wii for xmas

even in that biased group u see wii's strength



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Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
Bruceongames said:
HappySqurriel said:
super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
and gamers can't enjoy cars?

ioi and artofangels say hi.


Well then tell Bruce that


 I think we should leave the guy alone.

He came here with the trappings of a journalist and so we gave him a lot of attention.

By now we know he is just pushing a certain agenda and loves to get some of you riled up.  Let him have his predictions and his opinions....there's no way he is going to change his mind...or yours.

 


I’m just annoyed with how arrogant he is even though he is sloppier and has less insight than a lot of members of this site.

Especially the ones with thousands of posts.

 


Make 10 posts a day over a year (which can be done in very little time every day) and you too can have a ton of posts ...

The reason I consider your analysis "Sloppy" is that you don't spend the time to define the terms you use, and you don't demonstrate that the data you choose to use actually fits the argument you're attempting to make.

What is a "Normal Person"?

Being that we are discussing videogame sales I would assume it is in reference to the silent majority of gamers. Previous analysis that has been done has demonstrated that 80% of gamers bought their previous generation console for less than $200, and at least 50% of gamers only owned one console; it is reasonable to assume (due to software sales) that most gamers don't buy too many of the "key" games that the "core" gamers put a lot of emphasis into. Most consoles have attach rates under 10 (or so) games, and since "core" gamers tend to have very large libraries it is unlikely that the majority of gamers have more than 10 games for their systems; this (to a certain extent) demonstrates that videogames are not a major hobby of theirs.

How well does your data match this line of thinking about "normal people"?

The posters on this thread seem far more representative of the (at this moment undefined) "core" gamers rather than the "normal people" that it was trying to be attached to.