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deskpro2k3 said:

(IMO) The game was compromised to fit content in 3 hd dvd's. XIII-2 came with 1 hd dvd so imagine the content differences excluding CGI cut-scenes and audio.

Besides that, its selling more on PS3 dispite the fact they have exclusive DLC content on xbox360, and Square Enix still can't figure out why... go figure.


Xbox  360 games do not use HD-DVD. They use the  good ol' normal DVD format.



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Yes, just like Metal Gear Solid.



 

RolStoppable said:
Panama said:
Maybe. Something fishy is definitely going on though. 13-2 improves upon 13 in every single aspect yet has a lower aggregate score on Metacritic. Just seems like critics are trying to beat down on the franchise every single opportunity they get.

Final Fantasy is the new Sonic. The one big name you heavily criticize to have something to point to as an example that not every big name brand automatically gets high scores. Therefore, the entire review system is credible.

Except the Sonic franchise was considered a trainwreck for the better part of a decade, while the FF series has only recently fallen off its perch with the releases of FFXIII and XIV.  FFXII-2 appears to correct alot of mistakes that its predecessor made... I think it just gets a lower score because it's a sequel instead of its own full-fledged installment, and direct sequels like X-2 tend to get extra flack just for being sequels in a franchise where every games is supposed to be its own self-contained story and such.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Seece said:
Yes, just like Metal Gear Solid.

LOL... yup, it's all the dastardly 360's fault and all those neverending rumors about MGS4 getting ported that led up to what we currently have coming... Metal God of War, er, I mean Metal Gear May Cry, er, I mean Metal Gear Rising.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

NightDragon83 said:
Seece said:
Yes, just like Metal Gear Solid.

LOL... yup, it's all the dastardly 360's fault and all those neverending rumors about MGS4 getting ported that led up to what we currently have coming... Metal God of War, er, I mean Metal Gear May Cry, er, I mean Metal Gear Rising.

Well, FF I really have no clue, it makes sense they had to dumb down MGS because the 360 doesn't have Blu Ray movie support.



 

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JayWood2010 said:
Wow, childish thread much! A console does not make a bad game, a developer makes a bad game. It really is simple as that. There may not be a thumbs up button on here but I'm sure people will most likely agree....

Please go back and re-read the first post. I am not saying the Xbox 360 made the game bad. There is a combination of many things and some commenters made excellent points such as how XIII-2 fits on only 1 DVD.



RolStoppable said:
NightDragon83 said:
RolStoppable said:

Final Fantasy is the new Sonic. The one big name you heavily criticize to have something to point to as an example that not every big name brand automatically gets high scores. Therefore, the entire review system is credible.

Except the Sonic franchise was considered a trainwreck for the better part of a decade, while the FF series has only recently fallen off its perch with the releases of FFXIII and XIV.  FFXII-2 appears to correct alot of mistakes that its predecessor made... I think it just gets a lower score because it's a sequel instead of its own full-fledged installment, and direct sequels like X-2 tend to get extra flack just for being sequels in a franchise where every games is supposed to be its own self-contained story and such.

Or perhaps FF XIII-2 got lower scores, because a lot of reviewers felt that they had to compensate for their too high FF XIII scores.

gamrReview being one of the prime examples.

Ahhh, of course... the old "punish the good game for overhyping the bad game" routine!



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Zim said:
No Square themselves ruined it. The 360 has literally nothing to do with it.

Firstly 13 was designed and mostly built LONG before a 360 version was being planned or made. The 360 simply got a port of the PS3 version. Whereas FF13-2 was designed for both and most fans seem to think that is an improvement.

The biggest common problem between 13 and 13-2 is bad writing and characters. Something that has no relation to platform but rather Square's bad creative directors.

13 also had the problem of pacing and linearity. Something completely unrelated to platform. As evidenced by the fact Vesperia, Star Ocean, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey all managed to be more classical Jrpgs.

Get rid of Watanabe, Toriyama and Hamauzu or bust them down to roles where they have FAR less control. That will help massively.

Oh and more evidence the 360 had nothing to do with it. FF14 was even worse than 13 and 13-2 and that has no 360 version. In fact on gamerankings ff14 is the lowest rated game with final fantasy in the name.

You can't compare a single player RPG to an MMORPG....



forest-spirit said:
No, SE is fully responsible in the decline of the FF brand. They made the design decisions, not MS, and the game would had been the same even without a 360 version.


XIII maybe.

XIII-2, no way.



RolStoppable said:
Panama said:
Maybe. Something fishy is definitely going on though. 13-2 improves upon 13 in every single aspect yet has a lower aggregate score on Metacritic. Just seems like critics are trying to beat down on the franchise every single opportunity they get.

Final Fantasy is the new Sonic. The one big name you heavily criticize to have something to point to as an example that not every big name brand automatically gets high scores. Therefore, the entire review system is credible.


For once I agreed with you then you had to go and ruin it with that last sentence lol