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Sqrl on 10 January 2008

Wow I actually agreed with a lot of Leo-J's numbers in this thread. I think he will win the bet about 31m by the end of July...while I still disagree with his end of year numbers. I think you both make the same mistake though. I think those betting against leo forgot to take into account that the holidays are about 40% of sales for the year and so the Wii does not need to be that far along in Aug to make 40m by the end of the year which isn't a conservative estimate to begin with despite the mood on this site. But Leo also forgot to account for x-mas i believe and multipled right across the whole year.

Could be wrong but thats what it appears like.

But I also agreed with Leo's assessment of the 27m...I know crazy right? I think its a bit on the low side but oh well can't be dead on.
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Xeo_842 on 10 January 2008
Million said:
Xeo_842 said:
@ Million, Leo-J, and Cool48
Not trying to start anything, but could you guys tell me why you think the Wii will sell less this year than last year?

I think that's a valid question and I'll try give it a valid answer

  • Super Smash Bros
  • Mario Kart
  • WiiFit

Probably the biggest 3 software titles that the Wii is boasting in '08 the first 2 probably won't apeal to the type of people who buy Wii's and I highly dought that they are titles that people would buy consoles for ( however I could be wrong on this )wheras WiiFit is most definetley a system seller no dought about it , perfect mass market software , mass worldwide apeal. Considering the actual console itself won't offer any new services in the same way the PS3 will offer Home and XBOX 360's live , it's success is soley dependant on the quality of the titles released for it.

 If Any console is going to experience any major growth this year it's my firm belief that the PS3 is that console , not only do the exclusives apeal to the mass market but they are prestigous games in their genre.

XBOX 360's line up is looking pretty much mediocore , Halo wars is probably the biggest exclusive for the 360 this year and will probably sell 1 Mil units on name alone however it's an RTS , unless the game was incredibly good its success chances are very low . Like I said before RTS's are best suited to the PC and hardly ever achieve success on consoles ( something like a 95% faliure rate)


Bold 1: But look at SMG's sales, and SSBB and MK will be much bigger than galaxy.

Bold 2: Wii Ware?

By the way, Nintendo and Microsft haven't really announced anything yet on they're 2008 line-ups.



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brute on 10 January 2008
Xeo_842 said:
Million said:
Xeo_842 said:
@ Million, Leo-J, and Cool48
Not trying to start anything, but could you guys tell me why you think the Wii will sell less this year than last year?

I think that's a valid question and I'll try give it a valid answer

  • Super Smash Bros
  • Mario Kart
  • WiiFit

Probably the biggest 3 software titles that the Wii is boasting in '08 the first 2 probably won't apeal to the type of people who buy Wii's and I highly dought that they are titles that people would buy consoles for ( however I could be wrong on this )wheras WiiFit is most definetley a system seller no dought about it , perfect mass market software , mass worldwide apeal. Considering the actual console itself won't offer any new services in the same way the PS3 will offer Home and XBOX 360's live , it's success is soley dependant on the quality of the titles released for it.

 If Any console is going to experience any major growth this year it's my firm belief that the PS3 is that console , not only do the exclusives apeal to the mass market but they are prestigous games in their genre.

XBOX 360's line up is looking pretty much mediocore , Halo wars is probably the biggest exclusive for the 360 this year and will probably sell 1 Mil units on name alone however it's an RTS , unless the game was incredibly good its success chances are very low . Like I said before RTS's are best suited to the PC and hardly ever achieve success on consoles ( something like a 95% faliure rate)


Bold 1: But look at SMG's sales, and SSBB and MK will be much bigger than galaxy.

Bold 2: Wii Ware?

By the way, Nintendo and Microsft haven't really announced anything yet on they're 2008 line-ups.


Yes SSBB and MK will outsell SMG and so will wii fit

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ismael on 10 January 2008

wii- 42-43Mill
xbox360 26mill
ps3-22mill



supermario128 on 10 January 2008

Wii will sell 40 million easy in 2008, whoever doesn't think so isn't very smart, everyone that couldn't find one last year is still trying to get one this year, the demand is still very high.




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Million on 10 January 2008
supermario128 said:
Wii will sell 40 million easy in 2008, whoever doesn't think so isn't very smart, everyone that couldn't find one last year is still trying to get one this year, the demand is still very high.

 Doesn't really make you stupid if your calculate guess isn't accurate , i'm betting that 99.99% of the people on these forums wouldn't have the resources,statistical ability and the analytical ability to take external factors such as the economy and consumer habits.

 Everyones just guessing based on what they know/believe.

 If you believe the Wii will sell 40 mill that's all good and well I won't say "your not very smart" even if I disagree , I believe the Wii won't sell 40 million , I don't think it's apeal will continue much after the summer , the Wii's seriously lacking potential,ability and diversity  to have the same ( or even similar) life span to the PS2.

 Some people think the Wii will have a life span of 8 years ? LOL i'd better everything I own the Wii couldn't sell 1million units in 2014.




Fastrabbit09 on 10 January 2008

wii has more potential, ability and diversity than ps2

and it has more differentiators from its competitors than ps2 did

and it will capture demographics that ps2 never dreamed of capturing (retirement homes, rehab centers, gyms, etc)



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
Million on 10 January 2008
Fastrabbit09 said:
wii has more potential, ability and diversity than ps2

and it has more differentiators from its competitors than ps2 did

and it will capture demographics that ps2 never dreamed of capturing (retirement homes, rehab centers, gyms, etc)

 On your first point , you'd expect a console released 7 years later to have more potential,ability and diversity.

 Just because you sell in different markets it doesn't neccaserily equate to more revenue , the markets PS2 competed in , it competed indredibly succesfully in , it didn't need to apeal to everyone because the people who it apealed to loved it enoguh to buy software consistently for it.




Fastrabbit09 on 10 January 2008

didn't realize i had to spell it out more clearly

it has more potential, ability and diversity and differentiators FOR ITS TIME than ps2 did FOR ITS TIME



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
Million on 10 January 2008
Fastrabbit09 said:
didn't realize i had to spell it out more clearly

it has more potential, ability and diversity and differentiators FOR ITS TIME than ps2 did FOR ITS TIME


 The PS2 was a breakthrough , the Wii is a GC 2.5 , it's not offering anything that wasn't already there.