I find the british media to be very pro-Button anti-Hamilton but that's a whole different argument.

I am merely repeating what "the experts" say regarding Button and his "perfect car". I have heard it said so many times by the pundits that Button needs a "perfect car" to be competitive that I take it granted. I also happen to believe it.

"Only when the car is at it's best" I believe mean unless the car is perfectly set up for Button he cannot get a lot out of it.

Other drivers can get an under performing, not-perfect-setup car to perform well.

I believe Alonso has this talent.

Alonso (my fav driver) said that he rates Hamilton because he (Hamilton) is the one driver that can get the best out of an under-performing car.

I am just calling it the way I see it. I don't not take part in the driver bashing nonsense that is a feature of some F1 forums so don't take me as anti-Button.

On the tyres I totally agree with you. But tyres are as important as the car and to a degree the driver that uses them.

Perez shows a remarkable ability to conserve his tyres in the Sauber.

This is the beauty of sport...some sports anyway.

No one knows what will happen and that's why we speculate and discuss.

You could be right and I could be wrong..

I however will stick to my prediction that Perez will hand Button his backside on a plate. Not because I don't like or respect Button as a driver, but because I believe it will happen.

Let's wait, see and debate over the next season.

Cant wait to see the Live Drivers conference tomorrow morning (7am UK)
Hamilton and Perez (along with Button, Kobayashi, Di Resta and Massa) will be sitting next to each other :) cant wait to see the body language and the questions thats going to be thrown at them.

schumacher retires again then,to be expected really i guess

sauber won't be taking him now though,for sure,practices in the middle of night for me,race not to bad though 7 in the morning i think,qualy 6 in the morning

yeah same here! dont know whether to record them with SKY plus or stay up and watch.

As for schumi retiring, i think hes done the right thing, he came back and it was good to see him on the grid again but he just hasnt performed well at all. I would like to see him still in F1 in some way or another, maybe stay at Merc GP playing some other role.

i haven't got sky,i think i can manage 7:00am as i'm early rising at the mo,or i'll just have to watch the iplayer/re run if i miss it

it was good to have schumacher back i think and showed him differently to what a lot of people think,shame mercedes were not just good enough as i 'm sure they will get there,i'd expect to see schumacher back in charge of something in formula 1,no doubt about it

Hi guys,i will play safe i think,i won't change mine as its an early rise so you can plot your results if you wish,

i should be up near the race as i am on early rising at the moment but aslong as you let me know if you change your predicitons early 2moro morning just no edits of posts,

pretty eventful qualy i saw most of the rerun,good to see the saubers and kobayashi up there,its strange having hamilton leaving already as it doesn't matter anymore does it,no one cares,may aswell move onw ith 5 races left or whatever it is

a good qualification, really happy Kamui got 3rd
RedBull seem to have cracked it here, unless they have tyre issues or DNF they we will easily win this. The real racing will be behind those 2.
Looking forward to it.

Oh shit, almost forgot about this thread.

1. Webber
2. Kobayashi
3. Alonso

DNF - Vettel

1: Webber
2: Vettel
3: Grosjean
DNF: Kobayashi

Both sad and happy to see Schumacher go, it was fun to have him back but it's time for him to have a good relaxing retirement.
- Mill.

1) Vettel
2) Kobayashi
3) Webber
DNF Kimi Raikkonen
Hoping this massive gamble pays off.