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Play4Fun on 11 February 2012
Ail said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
Ail said:


They won't stop selling at retailers but they clearly rather sell digital copies. You can read the writing on the wall when in every quarterly report the focus is on digital sales and how much they have grown compared to previous years. Go check the latest EA and Activision press releases...( and every new retailer program to cash on used game sales is only speeding up that process).

Music has gone digital, books are going digital, games are doing the same. Yet all those medium still have physical copies too but you can see the impact on physical retailers when only 10% of sales move from physical to digital...( been to your local Borders lately or checked the PC shelf at your local Best Buy ?).

 

As for your CoD example, it's not really convincing me. CoD is one game where Activision clearly has the edge over retailers because retailers can not afford not to have those games on sales.  No matter what CoD fans will get their copies( there's a reason it's was the most preordered game this gen). If retailers can put some pressure, it's on the small publishers, not on companies like EA or Activision...

It's a silly argument. Digital won't become anywhere near dominant around the world for another 10, maybe 20 years for this to even matter. On top of that, EA's digital movements are more concerned with getting a foothold against the competition (Origin vs. Steam) than phasing out retail.  If Activision's current strategy is anything to go by, they're more focused on squeezing more money after the initial purchase, hence CoD Elite and the Skylanders figurines.

Packaged games going digital aren't comparable to books and music because games are HUGE. We've got PS3/4 using blu-ray, Wii U using the blu-ray equivalent, and there's no way 720 won't be there too. That's games that are potentially 25+ GB in size, when there are still major areas that don't have decent internet. Nobody's going to suicide their business if they don't have to.

But this discussion is moot because it doesn't even apply to Wii U. Its internal storage won't be any more of a "problem" than it was for 360 or PS3, so even if digital sales took over 50% of packaged retail next gen, it wouldn't stop these games from being available on Wii U's eshop.

Well let me make a little prediction then.

By 2020 ( 8 years from now).

Digital sales will represent more than 30% of games sales in the US for consoles and Gamestop won't exist anymore...

The majority of games will be available as digital on day one and preordered games will automatically start uploading at midnight the day of their release and will be ready on the device of your choice when you wake up...


I don't know if you know about the info we got at Nintendo's Investor Conference but Iwata said Wii U will be able to offer digital download of full retail games. Ubisoft, last year, even said Ghost Recon online would not be a retail title for Wii U and would instead be digital download instead.

One of the first things we heard about WIi U was that it would feature third party DD services on it's online system.

Plus the console supports external HHDs and memory cards.

Seems to me like Wii U will have no problem with digital download of games.



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oniyide on 11 February 2012
RolStoppable said:
oniyide said:

Mario games are first party, they are going to sell the best on any ninty system regardless, that doesnt really change the fact that those people buying those games still dont care about it. Bottom line is the majortiy of WIi owners simply dont care about the games that the HD crowd cares about, and vice versa. Yes there werent that many say, FPSs on the WIi but the ones that did come out nobody really bought, again not their fault, they simply moved on to other consoles that did have thsoe games they wanted to play. Im pretty sure the JD crowd is still a hell of a lot more likely to buy a Mario game over something like COD. Mario games in general are more in line with JD games, easy to pick up and play, more family oriented, etc.

The bottom line is that you keep moving the goalposts and avoid addressing points directly.

Is it really so hard to say that the lack of quality third party games wasn't the fault of Wii owners? Apparently yes.


And is it really hard to admit that the majority of Wii owners simply dont care about those type of games for WIi?? No it isnt the fault of WIi owners I never said that, Wii owners dont care so why would I blame them??



Moren on 11 February 2012
oniyide said:

And is it really hard to admit that the majority of Wii owners simply dont care about those type of games for WIi?? No it isnt the fault of WIi owners I never said that, Wii owners dont care so why would I blame them??

If a developer makes an average game on your system would you buy it?



dark_gh0st_b0y on 11 February 2012
Metallicube said:
Conegamer said:
Why wouldn't the Wii be the leader? Just because the Wii has fewer million-sellers, it still has sold by far the most SW of all three (the figures elude me, but I believe it's about 750mil), and the attach rate for all 3 consoles are very similar.

Nintendo releases fewer games, but pretty much every one will reach a million. And many will reach 5mil, a few 10mil and a couple 20mil. Because people buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games, of course.

This pretty much nails it.

What does it matter that Wii doesn't have as many million sellers? I'm pretty sure the HD consoles don't have multiple games that have cracked 10 million, and certainly don't have many that have reached 20 million. Wii still has sold by far the most software, and this is while having by far the worst third party support.

finally, people with some logic in here



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

oniyide on 11 February 2012
morenoingrato said:
oniyide said:

And is it really hard to admit that the majority of Wii owners simply dont care about those type of games for WIi?? No it isnt the fault of WIi owners I never said that, Wii owners dont care so why would I blame them??

If a developer makes an average game on your system would you buy it?

depends on genre, IP, so yes I would it all depends. Thats an irrelevant statement anyway, what i might think is average you might think its great and vice versa, too subjective. I think COD, JD games are average personallly



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SnesTea on 11 February 2012
Ail said:


I don't get why so many of you are expecting the situation to be any better with the WiiU.

The WiiU is expected to release with specs equivallent or slightly better than the current HD consoles.

Then 1 or 2 years after the WiiU, new HD consoles will release with specs 5 to 6 times better than the current HD consoles.

With that in mind do you expect third parties to be able to port titles for all 3 platforms , 2-3 years from now ?

The WiiU GPU is a Radeon HD 4870. The Xbox Next GPU is a Radeon HD 6670. The difference is negligable. In fact, the 4870 is actually more powerful.



Moren on 11 February 2012
oniyide said:

depends on genre, IP, so yes I would it all depends. Thats an irrelevant statement anyway, what i might think is average you might think its great and vice versa, too subjective. I think COD, JD games are average personallly

Okay, it gets mediocre reviews, word of mouth is bad and is the sequel of a terriblle game.



oniyide on 11 February 2012
morenoingrato said:
oniyide said:

depends on genre, IP, so yes I would it all depends. Thats an irrelevant statement anyway, what i might think is average you might think its great and vice versa, too subjective. I think COD, JD games are average personallly

Okay, it gets mediocre reviews, word of mouth is bad and is the sequel of a terriblle game.

Still depends, I bought quite a few games that people would think are mediocore. Hell I bought Red Steel 2 and that was a sequel to a terrible game, but it did get good reviews. 



oniyide on 11 February 2012
RolStoppable said:
oniyide said:
RolStoppable said:

The bottom line is that you keep moving the goalposts and avoid addressing points directly.

Is it really so hard to say that the lack of quality third party games wasn't the fault of Wii owners? Apparently yes.

And is it really hard to admit that the majority of Wii owners simply dont care about those type of games for WIi?? No it isnt the fault of WIi owners I never said that, Wii owners dont care so why would I blame them??

First you need to prove that the majority of Wii owners don't care enough to justify development for the console. Otherwise it's a baseless claim.

Look at the sales of the multiplat games, for a system that sells so much better than the competition why is it that only the dance and exercise and more family friendly affair does better?? And dont give me that the "wii versions always suck" cause even when that isnt the case, it still falls far behind the HD versions. I have numbers to back up my claim, can you back up that the JD crowd care about these core games?? Not saying they shouldnt put a good FPS or whatever on WIi, but I dont know why some are shocked your not seeing as much as the other consoles



oniyide on 11 February 2012
RolStoppable said:
oniyide said:
RolStoppable said:
oniyide said:

And is it really hard to admit that the majority of Wii owners simply dont care about those type of games for WIi?? No it isnt the fault of WIi owners I never said that, Wii owners dont care so why would I blame them??

First you need to prove that the majority of Wii owners don't care enough to justify development for the console. Otherwise it's a baseless claim.

Look at the sales of the multiplat games, for a system that sells so much better than the competition why is it that only the dance and exercise and more family friendly affair does better?? And dont give me that the "wii versions always suck" cause even when that isnt the case, it still falls far behind the HD versions. I have numbers to back up my claim, can you back up that the JD crowd care about these core games?? Not saying they shouldnt put a good FPS or whatever on WIi, but I dont know why some are shocked your not seeing as much as the other consoles

You are moving the goalposts again. Read the bolded sentence. As soon as you were called out on it, you changed the argument to the Just Dance crowd again.

The JD crowd are the majority of the WIi owners. SO my statement, now if you dont believe that to be the case and have some kind of evidence to prove otherwise id be happy to see it. Otherwise I will just assume you are in denial and we can end this