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sperrico87 said:
riiiiiiiiiight... Except they forget to mention that 1.3 million people stopped looking for work in January, and so even if we gained 230,000 jobs, we still lost over a million. But no, by all means, keep living in your fantasy where Obama is a great President and he's making everything better.

I'll just continue supporting Ron Paul and hoping that enough people stop dreaming and come to their senses so we can get our country back within my lifetime.


lol. I used to be for Ron Paul. Then I read on his own website that he wants to completely od away with the EPA, Clean air act, the FDA, no regulation on what goes into food, or what you pollute, no regulation on power, complete oil drilling freedom so that oil can drill WHEREVER they want with NO hesitation or regulation on keeping the environment ok, no abortion, no public schools, and he actually wants to pay people 7000 dollars a year to teach their own kids.

Hello industrial era America.

The things he's for that I agree with, I LOVE. Some greta ideas. UNfortunately he's a barrel of monkeys with some of the scariest ideas out there. He wants to turn us into China basically. Enjoy your clean air while you still can.



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theprof00 said:
sperrico87 said:
riiiiiiiiiight... Except they forget to mention that 1.3 million people stopped looking for work in January, and so even if we gained 230,000 jobs, we still lost over a million. But no, by all means, keep living in your fantasy where Obama is a great President and he's making everything better.

I'll just continue supporting Ron Paul and hoping that enough people stop dreaming and come to their senses so we can get our country back within my lifetime.


lol. I used to be for Ron Paul. Then I read on his own website that he wants to completely od away with the EPA, Clean air act, the FDA, no regulation on what goes into food, or what you pollute, no regulation on power, complete oil drilling freedom so that oil can drill WHEREVER they want with NO hesitation or regulation on keeping the environment ok, no abortion, no public schools, and he actually wants to pay people 7000 dollars a year to teach their own kids.

Hello industrial era America.

The things he's for that I agree with, I LOVE. Some greta ideas. UNfortunately he's a barrel of monkeys with some of the scariest ideas out there. He wants to turn us into China basically. Enjoy your clean air while you still can.

The thing about libertarianism is that it advocates freedom... for those who take it from others. The weak don't need the government to get off their back. They need the government to get everything else off their backs.



Looking pretty fantastic to me ...



HappySqurriel said:

 

Looking pretty fantastic to me ...


is that graph up to date>?



theprof00 said:
HappySqurriel said:

 

Looking pretty fantastic to me ...


is that graph up to date>?


No ... the employment to population ration for January was 57.8% which is a decline from the low point in that graph ...

But less people working is good news for the economy, or at least the mainstream media seem to think so



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Salnax said:

The thing about libertarianism is that it advocates freedom... for those who take it from others. The weak don't need the government to get off their back. They need the government to get everything else off their backs.

Ha, yeah. Unless you happen to be any of these people.



HappySqurriel said:

Looking pretty fantastic to me ...

Looks like every other recession, only worse. And since you conveniently left the Great Depression out of that graph, the current recession SHOULD look the worst.



Salnax said:
HappySqurriel said:

Looking pretty fantastic to me ...

Looks like every other recession, only worse. And since you conveniently left the Great Depression out of that graph, the current recession SHOULD look the worst.


You do realize that the US government has only been tracking the employment to population ration since 1948 ...

Here is a more up to date graph though:



Thank you happy for inserting some logic.

1. This new jobs report, if accurate, IS a step in the right direction and is GOOD news compared to previous job reports.

2. What the unemployment rate does NOT take into account are: Long term unemployed who no longer qualify for benefits, thus not entering into the statistic any more.

3. People who have given up looking for work because they are just unable to find work in their fields do not count against the unemployment rate.

4. College graduates who have no recent work history are not eligible for unemployment benefits so therefore they do not qualify in the unemployment rate. (This is huge, as the majority of the ones I have graduated with and are still graduating now cannot find jobs, are ineligible for benefits, and do not count in the unemployment statistic).

5. People who were fired due to something they did sometimes may not qualify, and people who quit their job to look for another one and have not been able to do not count either.

6. This is the first time in history that MORE people have RUN OUT of their benefits (99 weeks) than are still LOOKING for work that still count in the statistic.

7. This also doesn't take into account people who used to be managers, and people who had good manufacturing or desk jobs that are now working in minimum wage jobs, or jobs that are unable to support a family (hence many divorces, mortgage defaults, etc).

8. The reason the same government expects unemployment to rise as things improve is because more people who are unemployed will come back into the work force to try and look for work. Like these graphs state, despite the number of people who CAN and WANT to work being the largest ever (our population is the largest ever), the work force is as small as it was 30 years ago because so many have dropped out and exhausted benefits and in the case of graduates, could never obtain a job in the first place to qualify.



BOOM!  FACE KICK!

Let me know when unemployment is back to 2.93% (was the lowest in US history in 1953)



It's just that simple.