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The shipment figure is way more important than sold through figures for the console manufacturers. Why do so many people here only care about the sold through numbers?

Check the OP and it seems MS won everything than SONY in 2011.



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zhao3gold said:
The shipment figure is way more important than sold through figures for the console manufacturers. Why do so many people here only care about the sold through numbers?

Check the OP and it seems MS won everything than SONY in 2011.


Because that's what this site is about - sold through numbers. The whole "who won 2011" discussion was about sold through as well. So we still have no clue who actually won and we probably never will.



 

DeduS said:
zhao3gold said:
The shipment figure is way more important than sold through figures for the console manufacturers. Why do so many people here only care about the sold through numbers?

Check the OP and it seems MS won everything than SONY in 2011.


Because that's what this site is about - sold through numbers. The whole "who won 2011" discussion was about sold through as well. So we still have no clue who actually won and we probably never will.


Actually, not exactly. it was about a statement Microsoft made in 2011 E3, and they must likely use the metric of higest shipment = winning. 



 

Acevil said:
DeduS said:
zhao3gold said:
The shipment figure is way more important than sold through figures for the console manufacturers. Why do so many people here only care about the sold through numbers?

Check the OP and it seems MS won everything than SONY in 2011.


Because that's what this site is about - sold through numbers. The whole "who won 2011" discussion was about sold through as well. So we still have no clue who actually won and we probably never will.


Actually, not exactly. it was about a statement Microsoft made in 2011 E3, and they must likely use the metric of higest shipment = winning.

As far as I know MS repeatedly stated (throughout the year) that they were talking about sold to consumers. I remember those statements being linked in one of the "fanboys-throwing-shit-at-each-other"-threads, but I can't be bothered to look through them again, because those threads were freaking long. I guess fanboys have a lot of shit to throw.



 

look like xbox sold most console in 2011



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ZaneWane said:
look like xbox sold most console in 2011

Until now... nothing show that.

The Nintendo report says otherwise... just MS shipped more consoles but how much they are overshipping nobody knows before the Q1 2012 reports.



DeduS said:
zhao3gold said:
The shipment figure is way more important than sold through figures for the console manufacturers. Why do so many people here only care about the sold through numbers?

Check the OP and it seems MS won everything than SONY in 2011.


Because that's what this site is about - sold through numbers. The whole "who won 2011" discussion was about sold through as well. So we still have no clue who actually won and we probably never will.

Seems even in defeat the main spin is "but teh sell through rate". Well never get an idea until mid april so until then, lets all accept that MS won, unless theres an underlying PS3 bias that refuses to give up lol.

But seriously MS won in every category: company wide profits, gaming division profits, more shipped, more shipped in calendar year, YOY growth.

I mean cmon lol



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 said:
DeduS said:
zhao3gold said:
The shipment figure is way more important than sold through figures for the console manufacturers. Why do so many people here only care about the sold through numbers?

Check the OP and it seems MS won everything than SONY in 2011.


Because that's what this site is about - sold through numbers. The whole "who won 2011" discussion was about sold through as well. So we still have no clue who actually won and we probably never will.

 

Seems even in defeat the main spin is "but teh sell through rate". Well never get an idea until mid april so until then, lets all accept that MS won, unless theres an underlying PS3 bias that refuses to give up lol.

 

But seriously MS won in every category: company wide profits, gaming division profits, more shipped, more shipped in calendar year, YOY growth.

I mean cmon lol


Despite Microsoft winning "in every category," somehow it doesn't deter my enjoyment of the Atelier series.  And let's not forget that it was both PS3 and Xbox 360 fanboys who were arguing over the "sold to customer" and it being more important than "sold to retailer" which is more important by the way.  Please stop being so biased over this.  It's sound reasoning which refuses to "give up."



pezus said:
The difference can almost all be attributed to Q1 2011 (Jan-March) when Sony suffered because of the Tsunami and MS had to ship a lot due to shortages. I think Sony will win their fiscal year (Apr '11-March '12)

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/10619.html

More third-quarter earnings reports are in, and Sony's reflects a rise in PS3 hardware and software.

In the three months that ended December 31, 2011, Sony sold 6.5 million PS3 units, which is up 2.8 million over the previous quarter and a slight rise of 200,000 in a year-over-year comparison.

Software sales were also up, as the total hit 66.2 million, a significant increase of 28.8 million compared to the previous quarter, and 8.6 million more than the same period last year. On the downside, the PSP and PS2 continue their decline: PSP hardware fell from 3.6 million to 2.4 million and software dropped from 16.5 million to 11.4 million. The PS2 slowed as well, falling from 2.1 million units sold to 900,000, and software going from 5.3 million to 2.5 million.

Of course, the fact that the PS2 is still selling millions of copies of games in a quarter 11 years after it released is pretty incredible. Just an observation. Anyway, Sony's Consumer Products & Services division (which includes the PlayStation brand along with TVs, home audio, cameras, and personal electronics), posted an operating loss of 85.7 billion yen (about $1.1 billion), which is a bigger loss than the 63.5 million yen ($834.1 million) the division lost in Q3 last year.

Overall for the company, sales were down 17.4% year-over-year, and Sony attributes this decline mostly to the impact of the October 2011 Thailand floods, along with a deterioration in market conditions.

2/2/2012 10:04:02 AM Ben Dutka

 



Glad to see MS won. Heres hoping to a price cut and more consoles shipped in 2012!



It's just that simple.