@Happydolphin
Glad to hear someone else with a similar opinion as mine. I stopped playing God of War 3 bc of its excessive and unnecessary violence. Im not interested in games that are violent just for the sake of being violent (human violence at least).

The thing is, that's not ND's style. A character like Kratos alienates the average person from being able to feel any sort of connection with or like or admiration for him. ND will not have Joel this way without a deliberate, emotional purpose. I think its actually meant to show the contrast between what he had been vs.the person Ellie will encourage/help him to become.

The violence is all within context and justified. Nothing to cry about, especially not when that context is a post apocalyptic world where you need to survive.

this sounds great. its different from what ND usually does. a bold new direction, and i applaud them.

No at this. Other people mentioned it may be his backstory, it's used in critical moments. But a generallly torture and vengeance seeking character driven by rage, sorry but if that's what it is I'm not touching it with a 10-foot pole. No crying, just no playing. A man can be driven by survival to protect himself and those around him. But when driven by rage, causing unnecessary torture and pain, it's not something I want to associate with, sorry.

This is all assuming. In reality, CGI and Rafux are right it's still too early to tell, and Troy Baker, the voice actor, said so himself. But running on assumptions, and if it's what you're saying, above is my unalterated opinion.

If only more people were as good natured as you. Truth of the matter is that most people are not, if a stranger did anything to a family member or friend and when pushed to their limits you'd be surprised how ugly humans can get. It's just inherent in our nature.

I don't know how I would react, but one thing is certain there are people out there who have suffered great injustices, one I even work with, yet they refuse to let their lives be driven by rage. It doesn't make them in any way doormats, on their contrary it is their will that tells them they should not. Those are the kinds of people I look up to, that's the kind of character I want to associate with, if you know what I mean.

Ellen Page and Nathan Fillon in their own game?

Wut?