CGI-Quality said:
Eh, I'd argue that it's mainly during the holidays where you see such a gap anymore. Globally, the PS3 actually does more, it's just the US numbers put the 360 ahead more often than not (which again, depends on the genre / franchise). |
No, I mean all year round. We're all looking at the same charts I think, on vgchartz.com. 360 multiplats are consistently higher than PS3 multiplats.
CGI-Quality said:
Much of the time, that's true, but not always. You have to take into account the genre and the franchise. For instance, look at Batman & L.A. NOIRE: both sit higher on PS3, while stuff like Elder Scrolls & Call of Duty will always do better on the 360. All depends on circumstances my friend. The gap isn't as lopsided in favor of the 360 anymore. |
Fair enough, I'll keep a closer eye on that now that you point some titles out!
And the other possibility is that the 360 flavors are more frontloaded, so I don't get to see the legs on the PS3 counterparts while watching the top 10s, which could give me a false sense that the 360 versions sell better on the long haul. Are you aware of cases where this has happened, or is it fair to assume that if the weeklies follow a trend, that trend should carry on until sales are relatively ineffectual? I'd like your opinion, as I haven't seen it happen myself.
CGI-Quality said:
Much of the time, that's true, but not always. You have to take into account the genre and the franchise. For instance, look at Batman & L.A. NOIRE: both sit higher on PS3, while stuff like Elder Scrolls & Call of Duty will always do better on the 360. All depends on circumstances my friend, but the gap just isn't as lopsided in favor of the 360 anymore. |
The best and truest post in this thread!
Even though I'm not convinced The Elder Scrolls will always perform better on the 360, depends on whether general PS3 versions of the games get better testing etc.
Your main point is fully true though.
CGI-Quality said:
Much of the time, that's true, but not always. You have to take into account the genre and the franchise. For instance, look at Batman & L.A. NOIRE: both sit higher on PS3, while stuff like Elder Scrolls & Call of Duty will always do better on the 360. All depends on circumstances my friend, but the gap just isn't as lopsided in favor of the 360 anymore. |
Yep and if the PS3 and 360 had launched at the same time the PS3 would be way ahead in sales. (Talking year for year from launch).
RolStoppable said:
PC games will always sell better on the Xbox 360. |
:B Haha
RolStoppable said:
PC games will always sell better on the Xbox 360. |
lol....are you talking about the "exclusive" ones? Rol Strikes again!
RolStoppable said:
No, just those that are on both the 360 and PS3. |
Like?
RolStoppable said:
Elder Scrolls, Dragon Age, other WRPGs and just about every series that moved from the PC to consoles this generation. |
Oops I read incorrectly. pardon. Those games did sell better, but they aren't PC games ported, they are multplatform games. The Witcher 2 is a PC game which was exclusive and then ported. As the years go by (especially since Microsoft is in the gaming race) plenty of PC exclusives will be coming to consoles.
Legend11 said:
Equal footing? So you're saying that Nintendo's online offering when the WiiU launches will rival Xbox Live? That the WiiU will have an online community day one (or even year one) of tens of millions of core gamers that rivals what Microsoft and Sony have managed to develop over the past 5-10 years at a cost of billions of dollar? So are we to expect the next Call of Duty game to sell 10 million+ on WiiU? Seriously I keep seeing people saying how much of a threat WiiU will be but I don't think they understand just how hard it is to take an audience when another company has them. I mean look at Microsoft and their efforts to gain the casual audience. Even after a half a billion dollars in advertising and a continuous stream of big games with the biggest entertainment IPs around they still struggle to get even 10-20% sales in a casual title like Just Dance 2. Unless Microsoft and Sony seriously stumble (which I don't think they will) they will have an incredible uphill struggle to win over an audience that they have pretty much ignored for an entire console generation (arguably two console generations). |
You make a good point about building an audience over time. I guess we can't expect gamers to jump ship and switch to WIIU and pretend that their Xbox Live and PSN accounts which they have invested in don't exist.
I still have faith that Nintendo will win back some of the core gamers. People still love their Marios and Zeldas as the numbers continue to show. As you said, casuals still love Nintendo. If they throw everything they have into core audiences via things like third party titles (which they have never been good at) maybe they can gain some ground this gen and win back a sizable portion of the audience in another gen or two.
If this generation taught us nothing else, it is that with each passing gen anything can happen. Sales king Sony went from the undisputed winner of the last two gens in sales to dead last with a real struggle to remain viable. Nintendo went from last place to a very secure number one spot with a gimmick system that everyone scoffed at (myself included) prior to its launch.
Maybe online has change things though and people will stick with their brands cross generation in order to access all of the content/DLC/ extras and perks that online accounts now offer which is a very new thing for this gen.
I didn't read through the entire thread however thought I would point something out (maybe someone else did too).
MS actually doesn't lack exclusive IPs at all. They have PLENTY of them. The problem is they seem VERY bad at handling the majority of them. So of course there are Halo, Alan Wake, Forza, Fable, Gears. These franchises get regular entries (Alan wake maybe not but it seems we got the first, now the arcade game and the second is in development). Then there are some that have been semi-regular this gen but seem to have been put to the sidelines a bit such as Viva Pinata, Ninety Nine Nights.
However let's look at some other exclusive IPs (I'm kinda ignoring handheld games as they are quite a different kettle of fish)
Kameo
Perfect Dark
Banjo and Kazooie
Conker
Crackdown
Lost Odyssey (possibly?)
Blue Dragon (possibly?)
Too Human
Shadowrun
So firstly let's just look at those rare titles! Perfect dark had one entry at the start of this generation that was reasonably well received.... then nothing just left to die out. A popular FPS series ignored..... why?
Banjo and Kazooie? One entry this generation that was experimental. No attempt to make it their own Mario.
Kameo? One entry at the very start of this generation, was well received and sold moderately well (went platinum hits pretty quickly). Could have been MS's own Zeldaesque/platformer franchise. However it has been ignored since launch.
Conker? Completely ignored. They did a remake of Bad fur day for the original xbox then left to die.
Crackdown? Totally mismanaged. Had a poorly hyped up sequel set on a slightly altered map handled by a new studio. Still managed to be a good game but lacked new feeling. Huge potential in this series.
Too human - Needed to be handled better. MS should have stepped in and helped SK a bit with gameplay. Could have been Microsofts hack and slash series.
Shadowrun - How ridiculously mishandled. Rpg series turned into a FPS. Series seems to be dead and no attempt to revive it.
For both Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey I'm not sure MS owns the rights to the IP. However the games were well received. I'm guessing they didn't sell up to expectations and so were abandoned instead of making a push.
MS has enough franchises it just needs to use them better. Get a new perfect dark, Banjo and Kazooie, Conker, a proper crackdown sequel and a sequel to either LO or BD and bam a great line up. Throw in a viva pinata for good luck.
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