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Millenium said:
VXIII said:
Millenium said:
That's quite a steep loss.

Not sure if it's wise for them to continue the SE brand, let alone buy-out Ericsons share.

They are dropping Ericsson name all together , they have announced their first Sony-only mobiles a few days ago

Xperia ion and Xperia S , they have amazing specifications , let's hope things will get better for them from now on .


Ah, good to know. :)

Yeah, I hope it brings them success, I'm not really a Sony fan, but it'd be a shame for them to lose their phone business. Will the new phones run Android or?

Yes , Android 2.3 initially , upgradeable to Android 4.0 afterward



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It is kind of odd that a company that made a touchscreen smart phone in the year 2000 (Ericsson R380) isn't a major player in the smart phone market today.



VXIII said:
Millenium said:
VXIII said:
Millenium said:
That's quite a steep loss.

Not sure if it's wise for them to continue the SE brand, let alone buy-out Ericsons share.

They are dropping Ericsson name all together , they have announced their first Sony-only mobiles a few days ago

Xperia ion and Xperia S , they have amazing specifications , let's hope things will get better for them from now on .


Ah, good to know. :)

Yeah, I hope it brings them success, I'm not really a Sony fan, but it'd be a shame for them to lose their phone business. Will the new phones run Android or?

Yes , Android 2.3 initially , upgradeable to Android 4.0 afterward

So when Sony start shifting these and potentially make a loss, MS will profit from it! (given they profit on Android right?)

Poor Sony .. MS is making more money on their ventures than they are!



 

Seece said:

So when Sony start shifting these and potentially make a loss, MS will profit from it! (given they profit on Android right?)

Poor Sony .. MS is making more money on their ventures than they are!

Not really sure , they used to collect patent related fees from 10 Android device manufacturers , but since then Google has bought Motorola just to protect the Android from Microsoft and Apple, Google got ridiculous amount of patents , over 15K if I remember correctly



VXIII said:
Seece said:
 

So when Sony start shifting these and potentially make a loss, MS will profit from it! (given they profit on Android right?)

Poor Sony .. MS is making more money on their ventures than they are!

Not really sure , they used to collect patent related fees from 10 Android device manufacturers , but since then Google has bought Motorola just to protect the Android from Microsoft and Apple, Google got ridiculous amount of patents , over 15K if I remember correctly

Found it - http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=138891&page=1#11



 

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didn't know that they made a profit last year :S well good for them, but sucks what this year
but still loving my Sony Ericsson phone and the new ones seem to only get better and better



Seece said:
VXIII said:
Seece said:
 

So when Sony start shifting these and potentially make a loss, MS will profit from it! (given they profit on Android right?)

Poor Sony .. MS is making more money on their ventures than they are!

Not really sure , they used to collect patent related fees from 10 Android device manufacturers , but since then Google has bought Motorola just to protect the Android from Microsoft and Apple, Google got ridiculous amount of patents , over 15K if I remember correctly

Found it - http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=138891&page=1#11

Oh wow ! , no wonder that Google is pissed

I have to agree with them though , the industry is turning into a lawsuits war rather than a productive competition



VXIII said:
Seece said:
VXIII said:
Seece said:
 

So when Sony start shifting these and potentially make a loss, MS will profit from it! (given they profit on Android right?)

Poor Sony .. MS is making more money on their ventures than they are!

Not really sure , they used to collect patent related fees from 10 Android device manufacturers , but since then Google has bought Motorola just to protect the Android from Microsoft and Apple, Google got ridiculous amount of patents , over 15K if I remember correctly

Found it - http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=138891&page=1#11

Oh wow ! , no wonder that Google is pissed

I have to agree with them though , the industry is turning into a lawsuits war rather than a productive competition

Don't know enough about it, but I think in general patents have gotten out of hand.

But back to my original point, if Sony ship 2m phones with Android on in a Q, that's what, $10m for Microsoft?!



 

Sony was foolish to think that they could compete in the long run in an established mobile market.




Seece said:
VXIII said:
Seece said:
VXIII said:
Seece said:
 

So when Sony start shifting these and potentially make a loss, MS will profit from it! (given they profit on Android right?)

Poor Sony .. MS is making more money on their ventures than they are!

Not really sure , they used to collect patent related fees from 10 Android device manufacturers , but since then Google has bought Motorola just to protect the Android from Microsoft and Apple, Google got ridiculous amount of patents , over 15K if I remember correctly

Found it - http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=138891&page=1#11

Oh wow ! , no wonder that Google is pissed

I have to agree with them though , the industry is turning into a lawsuits war rather than a productive competition

Don't know enough about it, but I think in general patents have gotten out of hand.

But back to my original point, if Sony ship 2m phones with Android on in a Q, that's what, $10m for Microsoft?!

Apparently no , that's not the case with Sony in particular :

http://www.dailytech.com/Sony+Knows+Kung+Fu+Avoids+Microsoft+Apple+Android+Lawsuits/article23214.htm

Your point is still correct for the other manufacturers, Microsoft now covers 70% of the Android market in the US :/