Dedicated handhelds FTW! I hope both the best!

I wouldn't say that they are similar at all, PSvita launch seems front loaded while PSP launch showed wonderful legs (borrowed from NeoGaf):

PSP　　　　PSVita
1　　166,074　　321,407
2　　81,355　　 72,479
3　　92,515 　　 42,648
4　　111,194        42,915 (This week is not a sign of legs for either console, it is January 1st holiday boost)
5　　55,358           
6　　57,383
7　　66,601
8　　71,200

Note week 5 Psvita are going to be low, similar to how PSP went from 111,194 to 55,358.  Typically a console or hardware can have anywhere from 33% to 70% drop that week in January.

Note: I personally do hope vita rebounds eventually, as I plan on supporting it. 

Media Create numbers

3DS　　　　          PSP　　　　   PSVita
1　　374,764　　166,074　　321,407
2　　209,623　　 81,355　　 72,479
3　　96,463　　　92,515 　　 42,648
4　　61,394　　　111,194     42,915

Your confusing 3DS numbers with Vita

Vita did not sell more than 3DS at launch day in a holiday period and kept on going down compared to PSP. Now the total sales are the same but PSP kept on selling just under a 100k while Vita took a huge dip compared to launch

Edit: beaten lol

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/23593

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/101832-Sony-to-Nintendo-Leave-Our-3D-Glasses-Alone

But I want to see the "kicked shit" part

who kicked who?

I don’t get why Sony is taking it personal I mean they are not the only ones that have 3D TVs out there or do 3D games for that matter

You continue to pretend that I am saying thigns that I am not actually saying.

It's true that Nintendo software did best on the DS, though I had hoped that that would go without saying. It should also be pointed out, however, that no platform exists in a vacuum, and we have never seen a handheld live or die based on Western development. We have no reason to assume that the Vita will either.

I never claimed that western games will not appeal to the West.

Saying "THis is how it is" over and over does not constitute an argument.

Cool it, Groose.

Khuutra, I'm going to start over because I know you are good at debating, and most of this has just been picking apart semantics.

Let me see if I understand your point perfectly. Western support has never been a huge impact on handheld devices, and furthermore Nintendo itself has shown that a handheld can be successful even when devoid of western support.

Is that correct?

OK. The only way I can take that statement seriously is if you believe that western dev will not have a significant impact, or possibly, that strong western support leading to success will be novel to the industry.I had assumed that you meant the former, but you just said that you never claimed western games will not appeal in the West. So, can I assume the latter?

In order to further this discussion, we need to continue to follow the ends of the logic. I'm sorry that I'm jumping ahead, but that's how I think things through, sometimes several steps ahead of what has been established.

To address the most basic implication of your logic, the amount of popularity in the west was proportional to the amount of popular western games. There is already a hole in your logic. Thereby, the only points you could possibly have is the actual weight of "significance" in reference to western support, (as the support itself has shown proportional), and that Nintendo survives without support.

To address the "weight", then I point you to the popularity of genre and franchise over others. Western support has shown proportion to how well the console is received thereby, but to what degree has the proportionality been tested? Well, a handheld has never received the support of the most popular genre in a way that the fans of the genre have grown accustomed to. DS received CoD, but it was a far cry from what the game was on console. So, yes, this may be a new test, and it may be unsupported on handhelds per se, but simply saying that it is unsupported is not a very good argument either. Western games have shown to have an effect on the reception of the platform in the west. If the proportionality simply maintains standing, then the most popular western game should garner the most reception for the platform in the west.

You can have your vaporware argument for now, but it won't be long until that obstacle falls away, and then you're going to have to address it.

Lastly, the point about Nintendo succeeding without western dev does not in any way affect the impact of western games on console adoption. Nintendo only needs Nintendo. Really no other Japanese game makes it in the west on DS, and the same goes for psp (outside of squeenix). That in itself should be clear to you that in order to be successful, Vita needs something capable of selling in the west that isn't nintendo. Japanese games won't move many vitas in the west.

The top psp games in PAL are GTA, GTA, GT, medal of honor, call of duty, namco games, and SCE games.
The top games in America are roughly the same, with football in palce of soccer.
The top games in Japan are monster hunter, metal gear, squeenix, jrpgs.

It's not that hard to figure out. psps moderate success in the west was based on the moderate library of western games, not Japanese games.

The new genres that vita is going to be able to hit, (dual analog fps, for example) the most popular genre in the west, should boost sales accordingly.
Just look at GTA for an example. GTA is one of the highest selling games on western consoles, and it was proportionally the higher selling games on psp.
The hgihest selling franchise should equal best sales on vita in the west.

The 3DS will get GTA and other some Shooter too, but shooter aren't very popular on Handhelds.

The PSP got western games but the low hardware sales here results in low game sales and in the end no more western games. The vita will have even lower sales because of a big 3DS and smartphones/tablets.

shooters aren't possible on handhelds because the control style that people are used to on the consoles is not readily available on every handheld that's ever been out. Vita thankfully doesn't have that problem.

low hardware doesn't result in low game sales exactly. Not enough games results in low hardware. Again, thankfully the vita will not have this problem as every major western developer is behind it.

Previously these companies had nothing to put on the psp, thereby resulting in less sales for the console, and thereby less overall sales for other games. But Vita is capable of running these types of games that a lot of western devs make.

A console needs games to sell.