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Forums - Sales Discussion - NPD Dec: X360 #1, 1.7m, 900k - 1m Wii, PS3

Slimebeast on 13 January 2012

What a fiasco. I am sad again.

And the shipped/sold ratio (for X360) just doesn't add up. There's no logic.



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ljigga on 13 January 2012

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outlawauron on 13 January 2012
makingmusic476 said:
Those 360 numbers are fucking with my head.

It's times like this we realize just how little we know about what we don't know when it comes to shipment/sell through data and the reporting of such.

I completely agree. But then, we had tons of channel stuffing at the start of the generation.



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 13 January 2012
makingmusic476 said:
Those 360 numbers are fucking with my head.

It's times like this we realize just how little we know about what we don't know when it comes to shipment/sell through data and the reporting of such.


Same here buddy



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nikosx on 13 January 2012
makingmusic476 said:
Those 360 numbers are fucking with my head.

It's times like this we realize just how little we know about what we don't know when it comes to shipment/sell through data and the reporting of such.

shiped vs. sold Q4/2009:
xbox : +1.77M
ps3: +1.15M

shiped vs. sold Q4/2010
xbox: +0.49M
ps3: +1.67M

Overshiping seems to be common for Q4.



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MaulerX on 13 January 2012

I was thinking, did we just witnessed a change in the way people shop in the US? I mean, if we were to shift 300k from November to December (using the 360 as an example) then the 360 would have done 1.4 million in November and 2 million in December. Would we still be claiming doom? Even though the numbers are exactly the same in the long run?

Remember, the holiday shopping season starts the day after Thanksgiving. It's entirely plausible that the majority of people simply shopped early. For the first time stores opened early on Thursday night, effectively granting thousands of people the opportunity to partake in Black Friday deals (whereas they normally wouldn't). Also, cyber Monday has become just as big as Black Friday. I think it was just a case of more people simply buying early and taking advantage of deals as opposed to procrastinating.



Xenostar on 13 January 2012

I take it all those weeks in December we saw individual consoles selling more than 1m in a single week were bollox then?



Lucas-Rio on 13 January 2012
Xenostar said:
I take it all those weeks in December we saw individual consoles selling more than 1m in a single week were bollox then?


Except for the 3DS, it was not overtracked apparently.



bmmb1 on 13 January 2012
kowenicki said:

WOW

So either Europe and MEA are way off too or every discussion and debate on this site over the last month on this site regarding sales have just been rendered meaningless.

Weird numbers. Consoles took an absolute battering,

NPD YOY:

Wii down 55% YOY.... has any leading console ever fallen so fast?
360 top dog by some distance but down 9% YOY... bring on next box at E3 please...
PS3 down 20% YOY following a price cut!?  and has def peaked in the biggest market on the planet, will struggle against new consoles.

I guess iPads, kindles, mobiles and other devices really are taking some sales despite what people want to think.

Has ever a leading console gotten so many sales with so little third party support? While Wii has always had miserable third party support, this year it has been totally and completely abandoned by third parties, and for the most part by Nintendo as well. Despite this, it has sold as much as the PS3 has this year, the PS3 that had tons more support this year. I see this as quite a feat, as the Wii actually should have sold much less this year.



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Fumanchu on 13 January 2012

Can we at least explain some portion of the shipped vs sold discrepancy with promotional deals not from the standard game retailers?

Over the course of the generation I've seen numerous promotional deals where the consoles have been up for grabs in prizes and gifted with purchase e.g. bundled free with the sale of TVs and even mobile phone plans. Is there any attempt to track these consoles and do we estimate that their number to be significant?