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Forums - Sales Discussion - NPD Dec: X360 #1, 1.7m, 900k - 1m Wii, PS3

D-Joe on 12 January 2012

well i remember Nintendo just give the Wii YTD(yes it's ~December 2011)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=457687
math time



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Lucas-Rio on 12 January 2012
Jadedx said:
JerCotter7 said:
Hyruken said:

Well whatever your view all those numbers are really bad across the board!! There were no winners.

What is strange though is again MS say the whole we are top selling console worldwide thing. So i'm guessing chances are they have done better and Sony have done worse in Europe. Either that or they are lying pretty much. But as a company you can't really do that as loads of rules they could get done for i.e trying to falsely influence stock prices with inacurate numbers.


They are the top selling console in US? Did they actually say worldwide?


Yes, worldwide, and going by how badly they overtracked all consoles in the us and how they overtracked ps3 by 80k in france compared to 44k for 360 it is not that hard to argue that vgchartz is overtracking ps3 in europe and undertracking 360 in europe.

There has never been 3 million consoles on shelves so they have to be making it up in europe or other americas.

The numbers in France miss Juanuary-March period for PS3 and 360



SOLIDSNAKE08 on 12 January 2012
Seece said:
Really is time for a new generation! 720 end of 2012 wouldn't be such a bonkers idea after all, who'd have thought it.


i didnt think it was. i do now though, even price cuts wont help these consoles now.



Seece on 12 January 2012

" Finally, she notes that "Wii and the PS3 were neck and neck in second place for Annual 2011."

PS3 was 80k ahead of Wii up until Dec, so I think Wi must have sold better to be neck and neck.

Perhaps 1m for Wii (giving it the 4.5m Nintendo stated) and 900k for PS3 (also 4.5m)



 

ethomaz on 12 January 2012
D-Joe said:
well i remember Nintendo just give the Wii YTD(yes it's ~December 2011)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=457687
math time

~ 1 million

Over 800k for PS3... near 900k.



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steelabhold on 12 January 2012
Jadedx said:
JerCotter7 said:
Hyruken said:

Well whatever your view all those numbers are really bad across the board!! There were no winners.

What is strange though is again MS say the whole we are top selling console worldwide thing. So i'm guessing chances are they have done better and Sony have done worse in Europe. Either that or they are lying pretty much. But as a company you can't really do that as loads of rules they could get done for i.e trying to falsely influence stock prices with inacurate numbers.


They are the top selling console in US? Did they actually say worldwide?


Yes, worldwide, and going by how badly they overtracked all consoles in the us and how they overtracked ps3 by 80k in france compared to 44k for 360 it is not that hard to argue that vgchartz is overtracking ps3 in europe and undertracking 360 in europe.

There has never been 3 million consoles on shelves so they have to be making it up in europe or other americas.

At this point I believe everyone here is confused about worldwide sales.  So... maybe?

As for the possible channel stuffing: I believe it's unlikely yet, "never been" does not always mean "never will".  In any case, time will tell.



Lucas-Rio on 12 January 2012
Seece said:
ethomaz said:
Now I'm waiting the Big N PR to know the PS3 sales (using the MS market share).

Pretty sure it's not coming, if memory serves me right it always comes before this time. And it looks like they havn't got anything amazing to shout about if all consoles are that low. Hopefully they do though.

Be confident, Nintendo always release PR. They released PR well before NPD. They will use the same arguments twice and will highlights 3DS and its games.



Nintendogamer on 12 January 2012
D-Joe said:
well i remember Nintendo just give the Wii YTD(yes it's ~December 2011)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=457687
math time


also Wii's LT sales in US, 39M, http://www.computerandvideogames.com/330938/nintendo-clears-4-million-3ds-units-sold-in-us/

VGC have it at approx 39.09M end of 2011, so about right now.



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Seece on 12 January 2012
Lucas-Rio said:
Seece said:
ethomaz said:
Now I'm waiting the Big N PR to know the PS3 sales (using the MS market share).

Pretty sure it's not coming, if memory serves me right it always comes before this time. And it looks like they havn't got anything amazing to shout about if all consoles are that low. Hopefully they do though.

Be confident, Nintendo always release PR. They released PR well before NPD. They will use the same arguments twice and will highlights 3DS and its games.

Their earlier PR was probably it.

Worst Dec NPD ever I think ... in terms of excitement and figures. After such a big November as well.



 

Lucas-Rio on 12 January 2012

Frazier also notes that "there is one title that would have fallen in the top 10 for December if we were ranking on an SKU basis rather than on a combined platform basis as we do now: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword was the 10th best selling software SKU for the month of December."