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disolitude on 23 December 2011
Degausser said:
disolitude said:
sethnintendo said:

I'd still consider Sega CD and 32X as add ons even if they used different formats. They still needed to be docked to the Genesis. Also, they would be listed in wikipedia under the the 5th generation if they weren't considered add ons. The successor to the Genesis is listed as the Saturn. Just two ways of thinking about it but I am going to stick with how it is listed.

I don't see how you guys are getting stuck ont his "add-on" word.  Genesis, sega cd, and 32X are 3 full blown consoles that sega decided to bundle together in hopes that they would get people to buy all 3.

Gaming console is an ecosystem. Games available define that ecosystem.

If an "addon" has completely different games which are not found anywhere else, it has its own ecosystem and hence should be considered a console. This is why Nintendo DSi, XL, Sega Nomad...etc... aren't standalone consoles. They all just play other console games.

And they would be considered the 5th gen as Sega decided to support 3 different consoles the same generation...

 So the Eyetoy, a piece of hardware which plays its own games - but needs another console to play them - is also it's own console just like the 32X. No different between the two in reality. IT's a piece of hardware you attatch to another console to play unique games on, no?

there is a big difference actually. with the eye toy you get to play a dozen or so ps2 made games which support a camera addon.

sega cd and 32x have their own dedicated hardware components and capabilities and need specific software development for that hardware. making a game for them is like making a game for any standalone console.



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PSwii60 on 23 December 2011

The only other one is Nintendo:
Market availability until discontinued by Nintendo:

Japan:
NES (7/15/1983-2003),
SNES (11/21/1990-Sept 2003),
N64 (06/23/1996-2003),
Gamecube (09/14/2001-02/22/2007)
Gameboy Advance (09/21/2001 through 2008, All series)

So, Japan has NES, SNES, N64 and Gameboy Advance series for years 2001-2003

North America, twice:
NES (10/18/1985-1995
SNES (08/23/1991-1999)
Virtual Boy (08/14/1995-03/02/1996
N64 (08/14/1995-03/02/1996

So North America has at least NES, SNES, Virtual Boy and N64 for the year 1995

And,
Gamecube (11/18/2001-02/22/2007)
Gameboy Advance (09/21/2001 through 2008, All series)
DS (11/21/2004-2007 All Series)
Wii (11/19/2006 - Present)

so, North America has Gamecube, Gameboy Advance series, DS and Wii for years 2006-2007

Remember, I only included up to the time Nintendo supported the system. Japan's NES support can obviously be argued (supported through 2003?) as is the DS line (discontinued, apparently in 2007)
Source: Wikipedia.org; Take it how you will :)



Degausser on 23 December 2011
disolitude said:
Degausser said:
disolitude said:
sethnintendo said:

I'd still consider Sega CD and 32X as add ons even if they used different formats. They still needed to be docked to the Genesis. Also, they would be listed in wikipedia under the the 5th generation if they weren't considered add ons. The successor to the Genesis is listed as the Saturn. Just two ways of thinking about it but I am going to stick with how it is listed.

I don't see how you guys are getting stuck ont his "add-on" word.  Genesis, sega cd, and 32X are 3 full blown consoles that sega decided to bundle together in hopes that they would get people to buy all 3.

Gaming console is an ecosystem. Games available define that ecosystem.

If an "addon" has completely different games which are not found anywhere else, it has its own ecosystem and hence should be considered a console. This is why Nintendo DSi, XL, Sega Nomad...etc... aren't standalone consoles. They all just play other console games.

And they would be considered the 5th gen as Sega decided to support 3 different consoles the same generation...

 So the Eyetoy, a piece of hardware which plays its own games - but needs another console to play them - is also it's own console just like the 32X. No different between the two in reality. IT's a piece of hardware you attatch to another console to play unique games on, no?

there is a big difference actually. with the eye toy you get to play a dozen or so ps2 made games which support a camera addon.

sega cd and 32x have their own dedicated hardware components and capabilities and need specific software development for that hardware. making a game for them is like making a game for any standalone console.


 They're still both just pieces of hardware that play games on a console that otherwise couldn't be played without it, which use some of the original console to perform processing. Perhaps the extra RAM stick that went into the N64 is a better example, it again does the exact same thing as the SEGA devices but you conceed (I assume) it would be laughable to be considered its own console.

 I'm only throwing these examples in as they make your reasoning look at foolish as it is. The simple fact you acknowledge the devices as being different to 'standalone consoles' in your closing sentence is a consolation that you accept they're not standalone consoles but infact addons.



Xxain on 23 December 2011
Degausser said:
disolitude said:
Degausser said:
disolitude said:
sethnintendo said:

I'd still consider Sega CD and 32X as add ons even if they used different formats. They still needed to be docked to the Genesis. Also, they would be listed in wikipedia under the the 5th generation if they weren't considered add ons. The successor to the Genesis is listed as the Saturn. Just two ways of thinking about it but I am going to stick with how it is listed.

I don't see how you guys are getting stuck ont his "add-on" word.  Genesis, sega cd, and 32X are 3 full blown consoles that sega decided to bundle together in hopes that they would get people to buy all 3.

Gaming console is an ecosystem. Games available define that ecosystem.

If an "addon" has completely different games which are not found anywhere else, it has its own ecosystem and hence should be considered a console. This is why Nintendo DSi, XL, Sega Nomad...etc... aren't standalone consoles. They all just play other console games.

And they would be considered the 5th gen as Sega decided to support 3 different consoles the same generation...

 So the Eyetoy, a piece of hardware which plays its own games - but needs another console to play them - is also it's own console just like the 32X. No different between the two in reality. IT's a piece of hardware you attatch to another console to play unique games on, no?

there is a big difference actually. with the eye toy you get to play a dozen or so ps2 made games which support a camera addon.

sega cd and 32x have their own dedicated hardware components and capabilities and need specific software development for that hardware. making a game for them is like making a game for any standalone console.


 They're still both just pieces of hardware that play games on a console that otherwise couldn't be played without it, which use some of the original console to perform processing. Perhaps the extra RAM stick that went into the N64 is a better example, it again does the exact same thing as the SEGA devices but you conceed (I assume) it would be laughable to be considered its own console.

 I'm only throwing these examples in as they make your reasoning look at foolish as it is. The simple fact you acknowledge the devices as being different to 'standalone consoles' in your closing sentence is a consolation that you accept they're not standalone consoles but infact addons.



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Jumpin on 24 December 2011
VMEfinn said:
kain_kusanagi said:
VMEfinn said:

 

Sony:

PS2, PSP, PSP GO, PS3, PS Vita, Playstation Phone.   (Sony has at least 5 seperate gaming platforms as the PSP go is well...)

 


I don't consider the PSP and PSP Go seperate platforms. But I don't consider the DS DSi and DSi XL seperat either. PS Phone is debatable. I wouldn't count Windows Phone 7 as a Microsoft platform along with Xbox 360 even though it plays games too.

The way I see it Sony has 4, Nintendo has 3, and Microsoft has 1.

Sony still has 5 then.  PS2, PS3, PSP, Vita and Experia play (Playstation Phone)

Experia play is a mobile phone; that's an entirely different market. If you are counting mobile platforms than Nokia has at least 6 - BREW, J2ME, Symbian, Android, Windows Mobile, and Windows 7.

 

Anyway, right now Sony has 3 active platforms, PS2 doesn't count because its last significant game (Rock Band) came out in 2008, and only one game came out this year (Fifa 12) released back in September, and there are no further games scheduled for release on the platform.



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Kai Master on 24 December 2011

Atari ? 2600, 5200, 7800 and Lynx at the same time I think...
Nintendo ? Game & Watch, Game Boy, NES and SNES at the same time ?



Onibaka on 24 December 2011
Jumpin said:
VMEfinn said:
kain_kusanagi said:
VMEfinn said:

 

Sony:

PS2, PSP, PSP GO, PS3, PS Vita, Playstation Phone.   (Sony has at least 5 seperate gaming platforms as the PSP go is well...)

 


I don't consider the PSP and PSP Go seperate platforms. But I don't consider the DS DSi and DSi XL seperat either. PS Phone is debatable. I wouldn't count Windows Phone 7 as a Microsoft platform along with Xbox 360 even though it plays games too.

The way I see it Sony has 4, Nintendo has 3, and Microsoft has 1.

Sony still has 5 then.  PS2, PS3, PSP, Vita and Experia play (Playstation Phone)

Experia play is a mobile phone; that's an entirely different market. If you are counting mobile platforms than Nokia has at least 6 - BREW, J2ME, Symbian, Android, Windows Mobile, and Windows 7.

 

Anyway, right now Sony has 3 active platforms, PS2 doesn't count because its last significant game (Rock Band) came out in 2008, and only one game came out this year (Fifa 12) released back in September, and there are no further games scheduled for release on the platform.


Sony is still producing PS2. Even if there are no games being released, Sony is producing millions of PS2 every year.

I really think that PS2 will go on production at least for 3 more years(2015).

Hell, even Ps1 was still being produced awhile ago. But I don't know if a semi-dead plataform is dead or alive, however the fact is that the holders are still producing it.

Even Genesis is still in production by today >.<