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Seece on 15 December 2011
XanderZane said:
maverick40 said:
aw damn, what does this mean for Sony now kowen?


Layoffs, lots of layoffs. lol!! I'm a bit surprised as Sony had been profitting the las couple of quarters I thought. Now this huge loss and going to hurt their last quarter of 2011.

Huh? no they havn't been profitting.



 

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Adobo on 15 December 2011

I hope Sony just get rid of those stupid phones and stupid TVs altogether and just focus on Films and PS3/Vita.



XanderZane on 15 December 2011
Seece said:
XanderZane said:
maverick40 said:
aw damn, what does this mean for Sony now kowen?


Layoffs, lots of layoffs. lol!! I'm a bit surprised as Sony had been profitting the las couple of quarters I thought. Now this huge loss and going to hurt their last quarter of 2011.

Huh? no they havn't been profitting.

They didn't have a profitable quarter at the beginning of the year?

What the hell was I reading then? Maybe it was last year. Time is flying so fast.

http://www.amazon.com/forum/video%20games?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1T1DM93QU4XL1&cdThread=Tx29WJH2KHV5YSW

So they didn't have a profitable quarter this year at all? Just wow!!



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chocoloco on 15 December 2011
DirtyP2002 said:

Sony is a mess. Well actually it is a company with huge potential, but the way it is managed is not good. To me it seems that they don't have a vision at all.

I know people will be mad about this, but the PS3 is a perfect example for this. They do have a strong hardware and a really big brand, but they ruined it in 2 years and are building it up again. MS made it absoultely clear that they want the Xbox 360 to be the center of you living room and with the latest update, with Bing, Netflix, Youtube, MSN, Facebook, ESPN, Twitter, Last.Fm, LoveFilm, Hulu, Zune etc etc they are in a very good position to achieve this.

Sony on the other hand has a machine that can do the same thing, but they are miles behind in this segment. Sure they have their apps and can do the same thing, but overall it is just a not so good experience like "Xbox, youtube!". The Move was an attempt to get casuals, but it was a failure more or less. The point is that Sony has more entertainment in their portfolio than MS, but they are not using it. Heck they do have a big record-label and a movie studio but are not using it in any special way. Look how easy MS made the PC --> WindowsPhone 7 --> Xbox --> Windows Live Messenger products be connected. Sony failed to do so in the past years. PSP, TVs, PS3, VAIO, Sony cell phones could be easily used as a powerhouse and to deliver an overall complete experience.

Look at Apple and the iPad, iPod and iPhone products. Through the cloud it is just perfect for the user. Sony should do something like this as well.

I don't get how a software company, basically new to the entertainment industry gets more content than an entertainment company just with some easy partnerships with content providers.


I wish you would go back to not posting because unless you own a 360, PS3 and a wii your opinion is overly biased. Especially about the ludicrous idea that the 360 has so many more great services than the PS3, more like it is a place to go to get advertisements shoved down your throat. But dont get me wrong it does have good services, a few more arcade games and some good exclusives, but quite frankly it is in no way superior to what Sony offers. They are relitively equal. 



TadpoleJackson on 15 December 2011

Cut your TV division, Sony! You'll be back in the black in no time then >__>



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Play4Fun on 15 December 2011
chocoloco said:
DirtyP2002 said:

Sony is a mess. Well actually it is a company with huge potential, but the way it is managed is not good. To me it seems that they don't have a vision at all.

I know people will be mad about this, but the PS3 is a perfect example for this. They do have a strong hardware and a really big brand, but they ruined it in 2 years and are building it up again. MS made it absoultely clear that they want the Xbox 360 to be the center of you living room and with the latest update, with Bing, Netflix, Youtube, MSN, Facebook, ESPN, Twitter, Last.Fm, LoveFilm, Hulu, Zune etc etc they are in a very good position to achieve this.

Sony on the other hand has a machine that can do the same thing, but they are miles behind in this segment. Sure they have their apps and can do the same thing, but overall it is just a not so good experience like "Xbox, youtube!". The Move was an attempt to get casuals, but it was a failure more or less. The point is that Sony has more entertainment in their portfolio than MS, but they are not using it. Heck they do have a big record-label and a movie studio but are not using it in any special way. Look how easy MS made the PC --> WindowsPhone 7 --> Xbox --> Windows Live Messenger products be connected. Sony failed to do so in the past years. PSP, TVs, PS3, VAIO, Sony cell phones could be easily used as a powerhouse and to deliver an overall complete experience.

Look at Apple and the iPad, iPod and iPhone products. Through the cloud it is just perfect for the user. Sony should do something like this as well.

I don't get how a software company, basically new to the entertainment industry gets more content than an entertainment company just with some easy partnerships with content providers.


I wish you would go back to not posting because unless you own a 360, PS3 and a wii your opinion is overly biased. Especially about the ludicrous idea that the 360 has so many more great services than the PS3, more like it is a place to go to get advertisements shoved down your throat. But dont get me wrong it does have good services, a few more arcade games and some good exclusives, but quite frankly it is in no way superior to what Sony offers. They are relitively equal. 


Eh. MS is my least favorite of the 3 but even I know that their online and service system is superior to Sony's.



chocoloco on 15 December 2011
Play4Fun said:
chocoloco said:
DirtyP2002 said:

Sony is a mess. Well actually it is a company with huge potential, but the way it is managed is not good. To me it seems that they don't have a vision at all.

I know people will be mad about this, but the PS3 is a perfect example for this. They do have a strong hardware and a really big brand, but they ruined it in 2 years and are building it up again. MS made it absoultely clear that they want the Xbox 360 to be the center of you living room and with the latest update, with Bing, Netflix, Youtube, MSN, Facebook, ESPN, Twitter, Last.Fm, LoveFilm, Hulu, Zune etc etc they are in a very good position to achieve this.

Sony on the other hand has a machine that can do the same thing, but they are miles behind in this segment. Sure they have their apps and can do the same thing, but overall it is just a not so good experience like "Xbox, youtube!". The Move was an attempt to get casuals, but it was a failure more or less. The point is that Sony has more entertainment in their portfolio than MS, but they are not using it. Heck they do have a big record-label and a movie studio but are not using it in any special way. Look how easy MS made the PC --> WindowsPhone 7 --> Xbox --> Windows Live Messenger products be connected. Sony failed to do so in the past years. PSP, TVs, PS3, VAIO, Sony cell phones could be easily used as a powerhouse and to deliver an overall complete experience.

Look at Apple and the iPad, iPod and iPhone products. Through the cloud it is just perfect for the user. Sony should do something like this as well.

I don't get how a software company, basically new to the entertainment industry gets more content than an entertainment company just with some easy partnerships with content providers.


I wish you would go back to not posting because unless you own a 360, PS3 and a wii your opinion is overly biased. Especially about the ludicrous idea that the 360 has so many more great services than the PS3, more like it is a place to go to get advertisements shoved down your throat. But dont get me wrong it does have good services, a few more arcade games and some good exclusives, but quite frankly it is in no way superior to what Sony offers. They are relitively equal. 


Eh. MS is my least favorite of the 3 but even I know that their online and service system is superior to Sony's.

The only two thingsit has that I can think of that I wish the PS3 had was simple mics and not those expensive bluetooths, last FM. I am not going to start naming the things that are better on the PS3 because that is going to far off topic. But I am calling this guy out because he does not even pretend that the PS3 has a lot to offer unlike many of the more balanced MS fans on here. Good ones like Yo_John,Trashyouupmandister12, and BenV who can give praise to all the companies. I wont reply back on the subject now again as it is too off topic.



leatherhat on 15 December 2011

I read the title as "sony downgraded to BBBitch"



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kitler53 on 15 December 2011
Seece said:
Nintendo cutting the 3DS's price hasn't made it easy for Sony and the Vita, not only is it going to be much tougher for Vita to succeed, but if it doesn't do well in its first year (and it likely won't, but that's fine because no consoles first year does amazing, not sure why investors and even Nintendo didn't look at past launches ...) then investors will be wondering why they're not making drastic measures like Nintendo. Of course they'll be wrong to think so, Sony would be doing the right thing sitting on the price, especially if you can't afford to cut. But could strong demand from investors asking for Sony to do something, push Sony into cutting the Vita down enough so it's in the red? Is Vita going to be making much money anyway, does anyone have any figures on that?

I still don't believe Sony is acting like a company that is in the state it is. They seem to be behaving somewhat indenial.


i know this is a video game site and all but i don't think investors give two-shits about the vita right now.  sony's gaming portions are doing fine at the moment, it's their TVs that are bleeding money right now.  sony is a BIG company of which playstation is only a portion thereof.



kingwandymion on 15 December 2011

what video game hardware manufacturer isn't in red?