The Star Wars Cartoon show is actually a solid show and much better then most kids shows these days.
So what is it? | |||
| Star Wars | 68 | 48.57% | |
| Star Trek | 51 | 36.43% | |
| A nice booty | 6 | 4.29% | |
| This is like comparing Ap... | 11 | 7.86% | |
| other | 4 | 2.86% | |
| Total: | 140 | ||
The Star Wars Cartoon show is actually a solid show and much better then most kids shows these days.
spurgeonryan said:
Did you think Nimoy sounded like Spock in the latest Transformers movie? Ithought he sounded much different. Of course now he is close to his 80's so its natural that his voice would change some over time. |
Yeah, he sounded like Spock to me. An old spock talking though a robot radio. Sentinal Prime even quoted Spock's line from Wrath of Kahn, "The needs of the many...".
| lordmandeep said: The Star Wars Cartoon show is actually a solid show and much better then most kids shows these days. |
I agree. The action is great. And it's usualy dark with tons of death, like war should be.
The only episodes I don't like are the Padme/Senate and Jar Jar ones. The senate heavy and Padme politics episodes bore me to tears and the few Jar Jar episodes are stupid and pointless. When the do comedy with the droids it works great so they should just leave Jar Jar out.
This season has been really good. It's been mostly a series of multi episode story arcs. Each set has been like a short film.
rocketpig said:
The difference between the Death Star and red matter is negligible. The end result is pretty much the same. |
Except it's a little easier to fly a giant gun with greater than lightspeed propulsion and fire it with one quick blast than drill a hole into the center of a planet for hours and then drop magical black hole creating pixie dust into its core.
While the red matter worked for me as a plot device (and making its deployment a slow process that the protagonists had a reasonable chance at stopping), in retrospect, it did bring up quite a few "so why didn't they just X?" questions.
Of all the things they could have done to stop the drill (say, blasting it from orbit with phasers, photon torpedos, flying a shuttle into it, giving Vulcan a phone call and asking "Hey, you guys notice that giant mining ship drilling a hole into your planet? You might want to look into it!") they decided skydiving onto it from orbit was the best option?
In the meantime, no one on Vulcan noticed this giant mysterious mining ship in orbit blasting a hole into their planet? No one noticed any changes in seismic activity? No one on Vulcan did ANYTHING to avert the disaster or noticed anything suspicious?
In reality, it would have taken a single fighter (or any small flying craft) to knock out the drilling platform, closing the film's major plot point.
Of course, it made for a hell of a kick ass action film anyway and was my favorite ST film since First Contact.
greenmedic88 said:
Except it's a little easier to fly a giant gun with greater than lightspeed propulsion and fire it with one quick blast than drill a hole into the center of a planet for hours and then drop magical black hole creating pixie dust into its core. While the red matter worked for me as a plot device (and making its deployment a slow process that the protagonists had a reasonable chance at stopping), in retrospect, it did bring up quite a few "so why didn't they just X?" questions. Of all the things they could have done to stop the drill (say, blasting it from orbit with phasers, photon torpedos, flying a shuttle into it, giving Vulcan a phone call and asking "Hey, you guys notice that giant mining ship drilling a hole into your planet? You might want to look into it!") they decided skydiving onto it from orbit was the best option? In the meantime, no one on Vulcan noticed this giant mysterious mining ship in orbit blasting a hole into their planet? No one noticed any changes in seismic activity? No one on Vulcan did ANYTHING to avert the disaster or noticed anything suspicious? In reality, it would have taken a single fighter (or any small flying craft) to knock out the drilling platform, closing the film's major plot point.
Of course, it made for a hell of a kick ass action film anyway and was my favorite ST film since First Contact. |
Pretty sure they explained all this in movie. flying a little ship will result in it being blasted by the enemy, and if they were to miss a shot from afar that would give up their location. the drill lazer also disrupted teleporting and communication.

| deskpro2k3 said:
Pretty sure they explained all this in movie. flying a little ship will result in it being blasted by the enemy, and if they were to miss a shot from afar that would give up their location. the drill lazer also disrupted teleporting and communication. |
They explained (in about ten seconds by Cpt Pike), but those are hardly reasonable explanations, exceeding a reasonable willing suspension of disbelief.
They couldn't fly to the other side of the planet where communications weren't disrupted? Or was this magical lazer (sic) drill capable of disrupting communications on a planet-wide level? That's beyond willing suspension of disbelief for sci-fi.
The only plausible explaination is that the Enterprise crew simply wasn't aware of the gravity of the situation (destruction of Vulcan) otherwise they would have resorted to more drastic measures (like flying the Enterprise E into Shinzon's ship).
They were still able to fly a shuttle close enough to the drill to jump onto it from orbit (in a fantastic scene), so presumably they (Romulans) couldn't just blast it or they simply didn't notice it, meaning, they (Star Fleet) could have sent a shuttle into the drill to destroy it, but that would have been dull writing and would have shortened the movie.
Had they been aware of the plot an implications, the movie would have ended with the Enterprise wrecked/destroyed, but Vulcan saved and we would have a less compelling, less exciting film. Personally, I like the way the film actually ended.
I loved the movie and I'm in no way shape or form trying to wreck it, but it seems that the reboot, stretched certain plot elements into the realm of fantasy in the interest of telling the story. I don't have a problem with that, but it typically means more plot holes if an audience is going to bother trying to break it down as though it were theoretically plausible as is typically the case with sci-fi.
| lordmandeep said: The Star Wars Cartoon show is actually a solid show and much better then most kids shows these days. |
Admittedly, I've only seen most of the first season, but every episode was well written, beyond what should be expected of a children's show at the very least.
It's kind of a shame that they kicked it off with the Clone Wars movie, which was easily the worst theatrical Star Wars film.
The original Tartakovsky directed 2D Clone Wars webisodes were better, even though far briefer.
greenmedic88 said:
Admittedly, I've only seen most of the first season, but every episode was well written, beyond what should be expected of a children's show at the very least. It's kind of a shame that they kicked it off with the Clone Wars movie, which was easily the worst theatrical Star Wars film. The original Tartakovsky directed 2D Clone Wars webisodes were better, even though far briefer. |
And the first season is the worst. The show gets rolling in the second season.

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rocketpig said:
And the first season is the worst. The show gets rolling in the second season. |
Really... I know they added a whole plotline with the Mandalorians, but I've kind of been glossing over Star Wars these past few years.
Guess I'll have to pick up all three seasons on BD.
Well the new show is interesting as you get to see all the different species in star Wars.