http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/microsoft-talks-about-xbox-ones-internals-while-disclosing-nothing/

Microsoft claim the One has 8 times more graphics capabilities over 360. 360 had 12 over Xbox. So I'm happy with that. Also the potential of the recent news that devs can if tey chose to, run things like AI, Physics through Microsofts Cloud. Freeing up memory and CPU for other things. 

Interesting.

I don't think there's actual lack of GPU grunt (at least in PS4) - absolute jump in performance from last generation is as big as it should be - problem is that relative jump, considering length of the last cycle, asks for 7950-7970 level GPU, and we're not getting that.

Because it is 32MByte only? How much can you do with 32MByte? The first batch of games will use the eSRam as framebuffer and call it a day. What if the game uses 1G of textures? The better developers will start to use parts of the eSRam for data cache and variable storage purposes, but it will take time to figure out how to do this and the developers will have to program the technique for it and manage all the data.

The latency problem.. oh my, how many time has this horse beaten to death now? Do people really think that Sony engineers weren't aware of higher gddr latencies? The not so surprising answer is: Of course they were. That is why they added lots of transistors into the SoC. Some of the added features we know (direct command bus), some we don't. And fortunately for us, some engineer had a bright moment years ago and invented something called "cache" and "cache controller".  The end result is roughly the following: a) for code fetches: the latency problem simply does not exist at all. b) for data fetches: Here, we might see the latency problem sometimes. How often depends on how well the programmers have defined the data structures. With some good thinking, I'd guess than in less than 1-5% of all fetches we might see a latency. it is clear, assuming the unveiled specs are correct, that the 8G gddr5 outperforms the 8G ddr3 + 32MeSRam.

The gpu's were chosen to do what they are supposed to do: deliver 1080p games (or tvtvtvtvtvsportssportssportstvtvtv for the XBox One). They contain the best parts available for the money alotted to graphics. Anybody expecting a GeForce680 in a console lives in a dreamworld.

And one last request: please stop the "the cloud will save it" messages. Not.going.to.happen.

Personally, I don't believe in confirm specs in the Wii U, because I'm still hearing different things about the specs. Like Sony and Microsoft, I won't believe it until Nintendo tell me there self. I'm also hearing that these updates are secretly optimizing the Wii U to make it run better.

I'm eager to see the Summer update and see what happen, supposedly, it's suppose to be huge compare to the Spring Update.

Yeah, but even so... The Xbox 360 and PS3 look like utter crap today from a graphics perspective, plus the PS4 and Xbox One will have the same hardware for it's entire life, by the time the consoles are 4-5 years old the same thing will occur as this generation, games will just look dated which then means the multi-platforms that are released on PC will also look horrible.

Plus, last generation had relatively high-end graphics in comparison to the PC, this time around the Xbox One will have Mid/Low-End Graphics, the PS4? Mid-range with the Wii U having the lowest of the lowst.

I just want games to look great and push the PC harder, not stagnate.

It's clear you don't know how the SRAM works.
Microsoft will split the rendering frame into smaller "tiles" which is perfect as it doesn't need much memory to achieve good results and it will also fit perfectly inside that paltry 32Mb.
The Xbox 360 did something similar, in order to fit the frame inside the EDRAM, they cut the frame up into smaller pieces so the EDRAM die could work on it in smaller pieces.
The assumption that you are going to get Gigabytes of information inside of it is just silly, that's not how it functions or what it's purpose was to begin with.

Thanks for answering! That was my thought as well.

Well, based on past experience on 360 with its eDRAM, that eSRAM will likely be used for "free" anti-aliasing in most games.

For comparison sake, bandwidth for each RAM:

In Xbone:

32Mb eSRAM: approx. 166GB/s

8Gb DDR3: 34.132

Add them together and you get 200Gb/s as MS marketed at their reveal. However, in real-world terms they'll be used in parallel and need to be taken separately. The 200 figure is typical marketing crap.

In PS4:

8Gb GDDR5: 176GB/s

Source: http://semiaccurate.com/2013/05/22/microsoft-subtly-admits-losing-with-xbox-one/

Of course, but it's not just because of the memory in that piece of silicon, it's because of the extra logic included with the eDRAM that performs the Anti-Aliasing.

Remember the Xbox 360 had 10Mb of eDRAM, which is far from enough to hold an entire image at 1280x720 with 4x Anti-Aliasing, so the work was split up into smaller tiles to fit it into that tiny space, which works rather well, the same thing is going to be employed in the Xbox One as it's efficient.

I still think the console is far to underpowered though, same goes for the PS4, but that's just my opinion.

Teh fuq?

Yep. XOne expects you to have to buy batteries or likely a new charge-n-play pack. Additionally, if your TV doesn't have HDMI connections... well you better get a new TV or buy WiiU/PS4.