RolStoppable said:
I repeat: You cannot use the same graphics style as in the old games, because then SM3DL ceases to be a 3D game, thus it isn't the same game anymore. |
I misread your post and edited it before you replied.
Well, as fun as 3D Land looks, man, it looks pathetically easy, I could play it blindfolded. 
Seeing this just makes what i said in the other thread seem even more true, the games havent changed at all since they started. Look at GTA1 then the trailer who GTAV and MGS4 over MG, then this. Its just the same game in 3D.
Yet for some reason everyone can seemingly put down Call of Duty games for being the same thing every year with little to no change and get rated a 2 on metacritic but these Mario Games do it even worse for decades and everyone gobbles that up.
can't wait! i have to divide my time up for Mario and Zelda as they come out on the same day here :P
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| BasilZero said: Watching this video and other videos based on this game makes me wish I had a 3DS lol. |
I like to make fun of anyone who doesn't have a 3DS
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Also this commercial seems famlier
Edit I found it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOGcdKXbvH0
I liked the video, the game looks to be very fun and I'll buy it, but honestly I was more impressed on how the old games look so much fun too and the music was very good! Bowser music was really scary :p
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RolStoppable said:
Mario games don't release every year. Super Mario 3D Land is only the fourth original Mario platformer developed for a handheld. Four games in 22 years isn't as bad as seven CoDs in six years. EDIT: Only counting current generation CoD releases. |
But thats just original handheld, last year there was Galaxy 2, 2009 New Super Mario Bros, 2007 Galaxy, 2006 New Super Mario Bros (both handheld), 2005 Super Mario 64 DS etc and thats not including all the Mario Karts, Mario & Luigis, Mario Partys, Mario Sports games, Mario & Sonics and so on.
Theres countless games with Mario a year, another one comes out next month. Even if theyre spinoffs nothing is milked like Mario.
Seven CODs in 6 years, theres well over 20 Mario related games in the last 6 years.
RolStoppable said:
Your original complaint was that CoD gets bashed for being the same thing every year while Mario doesn't face the same criticism. In this post you have done nothing to back up your point, but just confirmed that you are wrong. By your own admission, all these Mario games are not the same and they were spread across multiple systems. |
No you were the one who said Mario games dont release every year, they clearly do, several of them, that wasnt about all of them being the same, you made out they were milking COD when its nothing compared to what Nintendo do with Mario.
Plenty of them are still the same, this Super Mario 3DS which is just running and jumping, is no different from Galaxy 2's running and jumping, or new Super Mario Bros Wii running and jumping or New Super Mario DS running and jumping or Galaxy 1's running and jumping or Super Mario 64 DS running and jumping.
It doesnt need to be backed up, everyone can see the hate Call of Duty gets for being the same thing every year, its metacritic scores prove that, this type of hate Mario doesnt get.
RolStoppable said:
This is your original statement:
The conditions you set are as follows: 1) Mario games didn't change at all. 2) CoD gets blamed for being the same thing every year, but Mario has been doing it even worse for decades. So far you couldn't prove that Mario has been more abundant than CoD this generation, hence why my point still stands. All you are doing is bending the rules to fit your agenda. Even by combining 2D and 3D platformers across three systems your count only reaches six games in seven years while CoD had seven games in six years on the same platform. It should be easy to see why CoD gets more hate. It releases more frequently. |
And you said Mario games dont get released every year and they do, you should have specified the main series if you meant that. Mario is more abundant, it has more games, 2D or 3D its still the same game, you run and jump in the 2D Super Mario Bros Wii and you run and jump in the 3D Super Mario Galaxy 2, a change of dimension or console does not make it a completely different game.
Marios had a game every year since 2005, Super Mario 64 DS, New Super Mario Bros DS, Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Super Mario Land 3DS. In 2008 it didnt particulary have one, but there was Brawl and even though it involved the fighting, half of the game was still Mario (or another character) running and jumping around just like the others.
They dont change at all, it still involves the same basic gameplay of running and jumping its had since the start with the only difference being the games went from 2D to 3D, and with things like New Super Mario Bros theyve even gone back to 2D again.
At least with Call of Duty theres a different story, characters and they add a few new things, it has multiplayer which has seen a fair amount of changes. Whats Mario changed? nothing at all. Super Mario Land 3DS' gameplay involves and i quote from wikis description
"Similar to the classic side-scrolling Mario games, the objective of each level is to reach and grab the flagpole located at the end before the time limit expires. Super Mario 3D Land utilizes a similar health system to those games, in which Mario shrinks upon taking damage from enemies or hazards, and damage while "small" results in losing a life. The game offers a number of traditional Mario items, such as the Super Mushroom, Fire Flower, and Starman, along with new power-ups that bestow a special suit onto Mario that grants him new abilities. Some revealed power-ups include the Super Leaf from Super Mario Bros. 3 which allows him to turn into Tanooki Mario and attack with his raccoon-like tail and float in the air, with the Statue Leaf allows Mario to turn into a statue,[7] and the Propeller Box, which acts similarly to the Propeller Block and the Propeller Mushroom from New Super Mario Bros. Wii, allowing Mario to reach high places."
Funny how everything is similar to previous games, isnt there actually anything original here at all. Lets look at some more games.
The gameplay of Super Mario Galaxy 2 is similar to that of the first Super Mario Galaxy
The gameplay is similar to that of New Super Mario Bros.
Similar to previous Mario games, Mario (or Luigi) can collect coins, stomp on enemies, and break open blocks.
Super Mario Sunshine shares many similar gameplay elements with its predecessor, Super Mario 64,
Similar to this, similar to that and so on and so on. But what about the plots
they discover a letter from Bowser, learning that he has kidnapped Princess Peach. Mario sets off in pursuit to locate and rescue the princess.
appears and attacks Princess Peach's Castle. Kidnapping the princess
Mario quickly rushes back and gives chase. Mario ventures through eight worlds pursuing Bowser Jr. and trying to rescue the kidnapped princess.
The game follows the traditional storyline of Princess Peach getting kidnapped by Bowser
How incredibly original.
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