By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General - High School Gay Bashing Caught on Video. Bully Got Off with a 3 Day Suspension.

Tagged games:

Carl on 30 October 2011

What I dislike the most about this, is that nobody even helped the guy out. Got jumped and people just watched...

I really, really hate bullies.



                            

Around the Network
Player1x3 on 30 October 2011
Rath said:
Player1x3 said:
Rath said:


People shouldn't have to hide their sexuality just because other people have a problem with it.

I'm glad that charges are being pursued - that was a pretty damned severe assault and the kid deserves a harsher punishment than three days suspension for it.

Great , but if he wants to stay out of trouble he should keep his mouth shut. Being gay is not ok is an opinion that majority of people share, especially in his age group, and he should respect it.


Why should he respect other peoples bigotry? They're the ones with the problem, not him.


Well, hes the one that got beaten, and mommy wont be there all the time to watch out for him, so it would be best for him to keep his gayness to himself if he doesn't want to get beaten again



lestatdark on 30 October 2011
Player1x3 said:
Rath said:
Player1x3 said:
Rath said:


People shouldn't have to hide their sexuality just because other people have a problem with it.

I'm glad that charges are being pursued - that was a pretty damned severe assault and the kid deserves a harsher punishment than three days suspension for it.

Great , but if he wants to stay out of trouble he should keep his mouth shut. Being gay is not ok is an opinion that majority of people share, especially in his age group, and he should respect it.


Why should he respect other peoples bigotry? They're the ones with the problem, not him.


Well, hes the one that got beaten, and mommy wont be there all the time to watch out for him, so it would be best for him to keep his gayness to himself if he doesn't want to get beaten again

Ah I see how that works. So if a catholic kid is beaten up by a non-religious bully or a believer of any other religion, then it's his fault for being catholic and expressing it so he'd better just shut up about it. 

I really do hope you never have a gay kid yourself.



Current PC Build

CPU - i7 8700K 3.7 GHz (4.7 GHz turbo) 6 cores OC'd to 5.2 GHz with Watercooling (Hydro Series H110i) | MB - Gigabyte Z370 HD3P ATX | Gigabyte GTX 1080ti Gaming OC BLACK 11G (1657 MHz Boost Core / 11010 MHz Memory) | RAM - Corsair DIMM 32GB DDR4, 2400 MHz | PSU - Corsair CX650M (80+ Bronze) 650W | Audio - Asus Essence STX II 7.1 | Monitor - Samsung U28E590D 4K UHD, Freesync, 1 ms, 60 Hz, 28"

blkfish92 on 30 October 2011
sapphi_snake said:
blkfish92 said:
Well did he beat him up because he was or gay or he just beat him up because he didn't like the kid?

He beat him up because he was gay. He even made homophobic threats on Facebook.


Ohh, then yep definitely a hate crime!



           

RCTjunkie on 30 October 2011

Bullying is wrong under ALL circumstance, no exceptions.

My school used to have a zero-tolerance immediate expulsion policy for bullying, drugs, and other such stuff. After my freshman year, the superintendent ruled that it was "too harsh" and got rid of the policy.

To no one's surprise, the school went down the pooper after that.



WHO IS JESUS REALLY?

Around the Network
SuperAnthony64 on 30 October 2011
NKAJ said:
sapphi_snake said:
kowenicki said:
sapphi_snake said:
kowenicki said:

what happens in this state if you bully someone for some other reason other than sexual orientation? 

Obviously you'd get more than a 3 day suspension. It was premeditated violent assault after all.


You know this for a fact?

if true then clearly this punishment is riduculous.

However, if this is in line with other bullying punishments at this school then the fact that it is gay bullying doesnt make it worse than say race bullying or bullying someone because they have a big nose. 

Bullying is just as horrendous for the victim regardless of the motive.

This punishment is ridiculous regardless, considering that the bully commited a criminal offence (physical assault), and also a hate crime (he assaulted the victim for being gay). Bullying is too broad of a term as just teasing isn't illegal and it woudl be pretty hard to punish that. However, if you don't properly punish bullies when they commit actual violent criminal acts, then how do you expect to stop bullying?

I'm intruiged, what constitues a hate crime? Surely the boy could have been picked on for an infinite list of reasons but when does this become a hate crime? 

Once the media found out he was gay this became a hate crime. Just like the flash mobs in Philly wasnt a hate crime cause it was black on white. Only when the majority attacks a minority is when its considered a hate crime. What a country.





Rath on 30 October 2011
SuperAnthony64 said:
NKAJ said:

I'm intruiged, what constitues a hate crime? Surely the boy could have been picked on for an infinite list of reasons but when does this become a hate crime? 

Once the media found out he was gay this became a hate crime. Just like the flash mobs in Philly wasnt a hate crime cause it was black on white. Only when the majority attacks a minority is when its considered a hate crime. What a country.

As far as I can tell hate crime laws are essentially in place to prevent a majority subjugating a minority through violence and intimidation. So it makes sense for them to only really apply to minorities.



SuperAnthony64 on 30 October 2011
Rath said:
SuperAnthony64 said:
NKAJ said:
 

I'm intruiged, what constitues a hate crime? Surely the boy could have been picked on for an infinite list of reasons but when does this become a hate crime? 

Once the media found out he was gay this became a hate crime. Just like the flash mobs in Philly wasnt a hate crime cause it was black on white. Only when the majority attacks a minority is when its considered a hate crime. What a country.

As far as I can tell hate crime laws are essentially in place to prevent a majority subjugating a minority through violence and intimidation. So it makes sense for them to only really apply to minorities.

And you are ok with that?



Rath on 30 October 2011
SuperAnthony64 said:
Rath said:
SuperAnthony64 said:
NKAJ said:
 

I'm intruiged, what constitues a hate crime? Surely the boy could have been picked on for an infinite list of reasons but when does this become a hate crime? 

Once the media found out he was gay this became a hate crime. Just like the flash mobs in Philly wasnt a hate crime cause it was black on white. Only when the majority attacks a minority is when its considered a hate crime. What a country.

As far as I can tell hate crime laws are essentially in place to prevent a majority subjugating a minority through violence and intimidation. So it makes sense for them to only really apply to minorities.

And you are ok with that?

Personally I think that while hate crimes should be more harshly punished they don't really need to exist as seperate crimes - just that the motive should be taken into account when the crime is punished. But that's the perspective of a NZer and we're a relatively tolerant nation for most things, so it might not really apply to other countries.



Player1x3 on 31 October 2011
lestatdark said:
Player1x3 said:
Rath said:
Player1x3 said:
Rath said:


People shouldn't have to hide their sexuality just because other people have a problem with it.

I'm glad that charges are being pursued - that was a pretty damned severe assault and the kid deserves a harsher punishment than three days suspension for it.

Great , but if he wants to stay out of trouble he should keep his mouth shut. Being gay is not ok is an opinion that majority of people share, especially in his age group, and he should respect it.


Why should he respect other peoples bigotry? They're the ones with the problem, not him.


Well, hes the one that got beaten, and mommy wont be there all the time to watch out for him, so it would be best for him to keep his gayness to himself if he doesn't want to get beaten again

Ah I see how that works. So if a catholic kid is beaten up by a non-religious bully or a believer of any other religion, then it's his fault for being catholic and expressing it so he'd better just shut up about it. 

I really do hope you never have a gay kid yourself.


Its not its fault for anything, but if he wants to avoid further beatings he should stay quiet about being catholic, yes, andaround the people and environment that hates catholics, but that's a very shallow example since gayness really isnt much tolerated in the world, catholicism is, i never heard about catholics being persecuted in todays world.

As for your last sentence, I hope so too lol :D