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That Guy on 05 January 2008

i could imagine David Hayter doing the voice acting for Zelda.

"Colonel, can you hear me? Its me, Link" That would pretty awesome actually. And then when link dies you can hear Midna: "Link? LIIIIIIINK?!"




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ssj12 on 05 January 2008
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:

I dislike both.

Voice acting never comes off good, and FMVs take you out of the game... and in some cases just make the rest of the game look like crap.

FF12 had the worst cutscenes ever, as there was very little difference aside from the hair being more then just one piece.


are you insane? if done right Voice-Acting is great. Resistance had pretty good voice-acting, Final Fantasy X, X-2, and XII had great voice acting, and Half-Life has the greatest voice acting .I like NPCs that talk instead of having to scroll through 100 lines of text to get to the point.

 

As for cutscenes, if used as transitions to other areas of the game, side-stories, and teing of the actual story that they can be good. Even Epic in Unreal Tournament 3 did a good job with cut-scenes.


We must of been laying different FF12 games. I thought the voice acting was horrible. Worst of all was the evil empire who all sounded like people trying really hard to do bad english accents.

 Atleast it's not like anime where every third character is dubbed by spike from cowboy bebop.  Though he does do a lot of videogames too.

Also, i read faster then they talk. I perfer real time ingame cutscenes thanks. Keeps it more immersive and makes it more of a real artform in my mind to keep the graphic level consistant.


 fixed.

 

anyways, Japenese Subbed Anime = godlike compared to American Dubbed Anime.

And I havent ran into many animes with the guy who played Spike doing the voice acting. I think I watch better animes then. Sadly I have seen about 30 animes where the women who voiced Kari from Digimon didnt even try to change the voice at all for the characters. lol

Anyways on topic. I didnt mind the voice acting. Overall FFXII had good voice actors for the main characters. There will always be a questionable actor when voice-acting. 

 



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SeriousWB on 05 January 2008

Agree with you ssj12 on the most part. In the right place, good voice acting is brilliant. However of course some games don't need or warrant voice acting at all, but there are games were it pays off in full (Eternal Darkness I'm looking at you).



That Guy on 05 January 2008

i'm recalling StarFox vs. StarFox64. I'd say 9 out of 10 people prefer the SNES slippy that just said "*ribbit-ribbit* *ribbit-ribbit*" over the high pitched "FOX, HELP ME!!!!!!!oneone"



Garcian Smith on 05 January 2008
That Guy said:
i'm recalling StarFox vs. StarFox64. I'd say 9 out of 10 people prefer the SNES slippy that just said "*ribbit-ribbit* *ribbit-ribbit*" over the high pitched "FOX, HELP ME!!!!!!!oneone"

 "Fox, get this guy off me!!"

"AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!" 

"Thanks! That was too close!" 

...repeat ad nauseam.

 @ SeriousWB: That's because Eternal Darkness was one of those rare cases where the developers hired a completely stellar voice cast. Jennifer Hale, Richard Doyle, Michael Bell, Cam Clarke, Kim Mai Guest, and - of course - Greg Eagles (who also voiced the chap in the suit up there in my avatar.) If every game could have a cast like that, then I'd be all for it. But, sadly, most developers just hire B-rate voice actors who yawn their way through whatever role is thrown at them.



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Kasz216 on 05 January 2008
ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:

I dislike both.

Voice acting never comes off good, and FMVs take you out of the game... and in some cases just make the rest of the game look like crap.

FF12 had the worst cutscenes ever, as there was very little difference aside from the hair being more then just one piece.


are you insane? if done right Voice-Acting is great. Resistance had pretty good voice-acting, Final Fantasy X, X-2, and XII had great voice acting, and Half-Life has the greatest voice acting .I like NPCs that talk instead of having to scroll through 100 lines of text to get to the point.

 

As for cutscenes, if used as transitions to other areas of the game, side-stories, and teing of the actual story that they can be good. Even Epic in Unreal Tournament 3 did a good job with cut-scenes.


We must of been laying different FF12 games. I thought the voice acting was horrible. Worst of all was the evil empire who all sounded like people trying really hard to do bad english accents.

Atleast it's not like anime where every third character is dubbed by spike from cowboy bebop. Though he does do a lot of videogames too.

Also, i read faster then they talk. I perfer real time ingame cutscenes thanks. Keeps it more immersive and makes it more of a real artform in my mind to keep the graphic level consistant.


fixed.

 

anyways, Japenese Subbed Anime = godlike compared to American Dubbed Anime.

And I havent ran into many animes with the guy who played Spike doing the voice acting. I think I watch better animes then. Sadly I have seen about 30 animes where the women who voiced Kari from Digimon didnt even try to change the voice at all for the characters. lol

Anyways on topic. I didnt mind the voice acting. Overall FFXII had good voice actors for the main characters. There will always be a questionable actor when voice-acting.

 


 Yeah, she's a pretty bad offender too. 



Kasz216 on 05 January 2008
SeriousWB said:
Agree with you ssj12 on the most part. In the right place, good voice acting is brilliant. However of course some games don't need or warrant voice acting at all, but there are games were it pays off in full (Eternal Darkness I'm looking at you).

Ah, true enough. The Eternal Darkness series is a difference. However i'd argue that horror games like that are in a completely different position then RPG games.

Personally i thought all the voiceacting in 12 was really stiff, aside from Balthier... well and fran.  Her voice acting was stiff but it was supposed to be. 



LG[Infinite] on 05 January 2008

Cutscenes are cool - so long as you can skip them. As for voice-acting. Unless it's excellent, games are better off without it. At least with text I can imagine what the people sound like. When they open their mouths and actually speak, I am invariably disappointed.

Some of my favourite - and not necessarily because they're awesome - examples of voice-acting:

1. Navi from OoT: "Listen!" It should worry me that even a decade after the glowing blue fairy first blurted this out, I can still hear it in my head. Yes, very worrying.

2. Ashley Graham from RE4: "Leon!" Given that a lot of my friends call me something that sounds a lot like Leon, this was actually a bit unsettling and kind of creepy.

3. Link for OoT. I'm not sure if it's just me, but have you ever noticed that when Link falls from a very large height, the noise that he makes sounds suspiciously like a swear word?

4. Yuna from FFX: "Yuna here!" Maybe this sounds better in Japanese, but in the English version it just sounds bizzare. How many people refer to themselves in the third person anyway? I can just see Link beating Ganon over the head with the Master Sword, all the while screaming about how "Link is here".



Smash_Brother on 05 January 2008

It seems like so few devs get voice acting right that the rest are afraid to try it.

But it can make a colossal difference with game atmosphere and intensity. Half-Life 2 and Eternal Darkness would have been half the games that they are without voice acting and the excellent lip-sync.

Most voice "actors" don't seem to understand the "acting" part. They treat it as talking into a microphone instead of actually channeling a character which is what they SHOULD be doing.



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SeriousWB on 05 January 2008
Smash_Brother said:
It seems like so few devs get voice acting right that the rest are afraid to try it.

But it can make a colossal difference with game atmosphere and intensity. Half-Life 2 and Eternal Darkness would have been half the games that they are without voice acting and the excellent lip-sync.

Most voice "actors" don't seem to understand the "acting" part. They treat it as talking into a microphone instead of actually channeling a character which is what they SHOULD be doing.

+1

QFT

Seconded

Amen