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What is better for each game?

Sound: Forza 4 29 6.26%
 
Sound: GT5 6 1.30%
 
Graphics: Forza 4 14 3.02%
 
Graphics: GT5 67 14.47%
 
Sound/Graphics: Forza 4 109 23.54%
 
Sound/Graphics: GT5 144 31.10%
 
Sound: Both about the same 1 0.22%
 
Graphics: Both about the same 6 1.30%
 
Sound/Graphics: Both about the same 16 3.46%
 
See results. 69 14.90%
 
Total:461
Michael-5 on 24 October 2011
ethomaz said:
Michael-5 said:
ethomaz said:
lestatdark said:
Ethomaz let it go. The standard cars in GT5 barely resemble the cars in Forza 3, let alone the ones in Forza 4. You're doing yourself a disfavour in continuing with that fallacy. I don't have Forza 4 to compare but I did have Forza 3 and I did compare them side by side, it's not even close.

And yes, I've got Spec 2.0 and everything you said in this thread (and I'm only at 1% from finishing GT5 too). Let it go, enjoy GT5 for what it offers.

There standard and standard cars... some are just terrible ungly... other looks like premium without interior view (the Spec 2.0 just add simple interior view).

That's my point... the people here says things like the standard cars are all equals.

And the premium one is in another level like most reviews said in the web.

That's exactly true. Some standard cars in GT5 look like PGR3 cars (Acura), some look like HD PSP/PS2 cars.

As for premium cars, they are a whole new level up in graphics. All of Forza 4's cars are at or above this level. Don't believe me? somone before posted a video of the Pagani Zonda R, and it looks so much better in Forza 4 then GT5. Arguements aside, this proves that Forza 4 car quality is on par with GT5 premium cars.

Everything else is just trolling.

I'm using the gametrailers like you said before...

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/forza-4-forza-motorsport/722163

The car model looks better on GT5... and that's a one to one comparison... because if you add more cars in Forza 4 the graphics are becoming worse.

Edit - This Zonda R comparison???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iseHMk1Vny0

GT5 model yet looks better.

That first car is Forza Motorsport 4 you know. That first car is the better looking one.

As for GT, I'm not being subjective. In their review they said they look on par, and IGN said they look better in Forza 4.

Anyway, not getting into it. Just enjoy GT5, I'll enjoy both games.



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Michael-5 on 24 October 2011
lestatdark said:

But all standards have noticeable imperfections that when put side by side with premiums make then stand out like regular standards. Just take any standard into Photo Mode and take the same photo with a Premium and you'll notice the differences right away. And that interior view they added is just the same interior view GT PSP had, which is a shame as I was one of the very few people against an interior view for standards if they went down that path. 

The thing is, reviewers said that about premium cars last year, a year before Forza 4 released, so Turn 10 had a lot of time upgrading their cars to look on par or better. It's not like GT5 premium cars don't look amazing and sometimes photorealistic, it's just that Forza 4 had more time to do better. It's the way games (simulators in this matter) progress, someone does something right and the next developer/game will try to do better with more time. 

If PD managed to release GT6 next year, no doubt they would have models that would surpass Forza 4 and GT5, because they'd have time to do so. It's natural evolution for the genre.

Exactly.

Also as a side note, 2 years development time isn't much, but Turn 10 is more then twice as big as Polyphony Digital, so 2 years for Turn 10 is quite a lot. Forza 3 also presented a sim/game nearly as accurate and authentic as GT5, so ethomaz, just try to imagine what Forza 4 has become.

As for in car views, I wanted it. It looks terrible, but I just can't race outside the car.



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ethomaz on 24 October 2011

Michael-5 said:

That first car is Forza Motorsport 4 you know. That first car is the better looking one.

As for GT, I'm not being subjective. In their review they said they look on par, and IGN said they look better in Forza 4.

Anyway, not getting into it. Just enjoy GT5, I'll enjoy both games.

The first car isn't the better... looks at the details man... the second car has a better interior view...  there are no shadow in Forza 4's car and lacks details in textures.

And the GT video shows the GT5's car better external too.



Aldro on 24 October 2011
ethomaz said:

Michael-5 said:

That first car is Forza Motorsport 4 you know. That first car is the better looking one.

As for GT, I'm not being subjective. In their review they said they look on par, and IGN said they look better in Forza 4.

Anyway, not getting into it. Just enjoy GT5, I'll enjoy both games.

The first car isn't the better... looks at the details man... the second car has a better interior view...  there are no shadow in Forza 4's car and lacks details in textures.

And the GT video shows the GT5's car better external too.

This does have some truth after watching the video..



lestatdark on 24 October 2011
Michael-5 said:
lestatdark said:
 

But all standards have noticeable imperfections that when put side by side with premiums make then stand out like regular standards. Just take any standard into Photo Mode and take the same photo with a Premium and you'll notice the differences right away. And that interior view they added is just the same interior view GT PSP had, which is a shame as I was one of the very few people against an interior view for standards if they went down that path. 

The thing is, reviewers said that about premium cars last year, a year before Forza 4 released, so Turn 10 had a lot of time upgrading their cars to look on par or better. It's not like GT5 premium cars don't look amazing and sometimes photorealistic, it's just that Forza 4 had more time to do better. It's the way games (simulators in this matter) progress, someone does something right and the next developer/game will try to do better with more time. 

If PD managed to release GT6 next year, no doubt they would have models that would surpass Forza 4 and GT5, because they'd have time to do so. It's natural evolution for the genre.

Exactly.

Also as a side note, 2 years development time isn't much, but Turn 10 is more then twice as big as Polyphony Digital, so 2 years for Turn 10 is quite a lot. Forza 3 also presented a sim/game nearly as accurate and authentic as GT5, so ethomaz, just try to imagine what Forza 4 has become.

As for in car views, I wanted it. It looks terrible, but I just can't race outside the car.

Not only is Turn 10 bigger than PD as a developer, but they also had a lot of know how with the 360 architecture and had a lot of building blocks from the previous 2 Forzas to make Forza 4 even better. That's why the reviews and the user inputs didn't surprise me, because each Forza has been consistently getting better and better. When I buy a 360 again (after my finances stabilize), Forza 4 will be the very first game I buy. 

I just dislike that view overall (in standard cars). On GT:PSP it was bad enough, as it was just an ugly black texture which cut a lot of road detail. I'd rather race on the bumper/hood cam. While is not as good as the driver's view, it's better for me in that case. 



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Michael-5 on 24 October 2011
ethomaz said:

Michael-5 said:

That first car is Forza Motorsport 4 you know. That first car is the better looking one.

As for GT, I'm not being subjective. In their review they said they look on par, and IGN said they look better in Forza 4.

Anyway, not getting into it. Just enjoy GT5, I'll enjoy both games.

The first car isn't the better... looks at the details man... the second car has a better interior view...  there are no shadow in Forza 4's car and lacks details in textures.

And the GT video shows the GT5's car better external too.

Just no.

Look at the detail, the dash is a bit glossy, like carbon fibre should be. Clouds and light reflects off the dash, and it just looks a lot better. The steering wheel is dull, soft, like it is in real life. The center of it has more carbon fibre, you can see the weaving. The center console dials have those grips on them like in real life (GT5 doesn't have them, or I can see them). The tachometer on the steering wheel moves too, and the LCD display looks a lot clearer and more vivid. Also the glossy hood is more noticable in Forza 4, and interior features are more prevalent.

In GT5 the dash looks like plastic, I can't even see the center console because the in car camera cuts it off (not lifelike at all), and the steering wheel has no texture at all.

Also the sound. In this video the Pagani sounds like NFS: Most Wanted in GT5, but in Forza it sounds like a Masaratti (never heard a Pagani in real life).

Also the braking. In Forza 4, the very first clip, you see the driver having to catch the car, struggling to brake in a straight line. In the Top Gear track video, the guy stops in a straight line. And you say braking in Forza is a joke, ha.

Also GT themselves say the models in Forza 4 and GT5 are on par. Stop trying to pass GT's opinion as your own. Play Forza 4, then judge it yourself, don't judge everything off cam videos online.



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Michael-5 on 24 October 2011
lestatdark said:
Michael-5 said:
lestatdark said:
 

But all standards have noticeable imperfections that when put side by side with premiums make then stand out like regular standards. Just take any standard into Photo Mode and take the same photo with a Premium and you'll notice the differences right away. And that interior view they added is just the same interior view GT PSP had, which is a shame as I was one of the very few people against an interior view for standards if they went down that path. 

The thing is, reviewers said that about premium cars last year, a year before Forza 4 released, so Turn 10 had a lot of time upgrading their cars to look on par or better. It's not like GT5 premium cars don't look amazing and sometimes photorealistic, it's just that Forza 4 had more time to do better. It's the way games (simulators in this matter) progress, someone does something right and the next developer/game will try to do better with more time. 

If PD managed to release GT6 next year, no doubt they would have models that would surpass Forza 4 and GT5, because they'd have time to do so. It's natural evolution for the genre.

Exactly.

Also as a side note, 2 years development time isn't much, but Turn 10 is more then twice as big as Polyphony Digital, so 2 years for Turn 10 is quite a lot. Forza 3 also presented a sim/game nearly as accurate and authentic as GT5, so ethomaz, just try to imagine what Forza 4 has become.

As for in car views, I wanted it. It looks terrible, but I just can't race outside the car.

Not only is Turn 10 bigger than PD as a developer, but they also had a lot of know how with the 360 architecture and had a lot of building blocks from the previous 2 Forzas to make Forza 4 even better. That's why the reviews and the user inputs didn't surprise me, because each Forza has been consistently getting better and better. When I buy a 360 again (after my finances stabilize), Forza 4 will be the very first game I buy. 

I just dislike that view overall (in standard cars). On GT:PSP it was bad enough, as it was just an ugly black texture which cut a lot of road detail. I'd rather race on the bumper/hood cam. While is not as good as the driver's view, it's better for me in that case. 

Yup, for GT5 Polyphony Digital created a new engine to play the game. Although the standard cars are HD imports from the PS2 and PSP games, the Premium cars were built on a different system all together.

For Forza 4, although most of the engine that Forza 2 was based on has since been rebuilt or scrapped, Turn 10 had a model to work with for 6 years. As a larger company, that easily translates to over 10 years (12 years if you base it off man-hours in dev time) of dev time for Forza 4, compared to GT5's 5 years. It shows.

As for buying a 360....this late into the console gen, if you get one, just get the Arcade model. On Black Friday/Boxing Day/Whatever sales holiday you have in your country, they drop down to $130 (they did last year). I though about replacing my PS3, but I'm waiting for a BC PS4 now instead (will borrow a friends system for UC3)

For GT PSP, I needed that in car view, and I don't mind the blacked out interrior. For GT5, I will have to wait and see. Spec 2.0 isn't release in NA yet is it? It's just the physics on being in a car is so much different the out of car view. I hated Rally events in GT5 because of the lack of in car view.



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Michael-5 on 24 October 2011
trasharmdsister12 said:
Michael-5 said:

Spec 2.0 isn't release in NA yet is it?

It is. It went live worldwide a couple of weeks back.

Oh okay, well my PS3 broke a while back anyway so I'll have to wait a while before I borrow my friends PS3 to judge Spec 2.0. (Saving for a PS4 instead of replacing the PS3).



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lestatdark on 24 October 2011
Michael-5 said:
lestatdark said:
Michael-5 said:
lestatdark said:
 

But all standards have noticeable imperfections that when put side by side with premiums make then stand out like regular standards. Just take any standard into Photo Mode and take the same photo with a Premium and you'll notice the differences right away. And that interior view they added is just the same interior view GT PSP had, which is a shame as I was one of the very few people against an interior view for standards if they went down that path. 

The thing is, reviewers said that about premium cars last year, a year before Forza 4 released, so Turn 10 had a lot of time upgrading their cars to look on par or better. It's not like GT5 premium cars don't look amazing and sometimes photorealistic, it's just that Forza 4 had more time to do better. It's the way games (simulators in this matter) progress, someone does something right and the next developer/game will try to do better with more time. 

If PD managed to release GT6 next year, no doubt they would have models that would surpass Forza 4 and GT5, because they'd have time to do so. It's natural evolution for the genre.

Exactly.

Also as a side note, 2 years development time isn't much, but Turn 10 is more then twice as big as Polyphony Digital, so 2 years for Turn 10 is quite a lot. Forza 3 also presented a sim/game nearly as accurate and authentic as GT5, so ethomaz, just try to imagine what Forza 4 has become.

As for in car views, I wanted it. It looks terrible, but I just can't race outside the car.

Not only is Turn 10 bigger than PD as a developer, but they also had a lot of know how with the 360 architecture and had a lot of building blocks from the previous 2 Forzas to make Forza 4 even better. That's why the reviews and the user inputs didn't surprise me, because each Forza has been consistently getting better and better. When I buy a 360 again (after my finances stabilize), Forza 4 will be the very first game I buy. 

I just dislike that view overall (in standard cars). On GT:PSP it was bad enough, as it was just an ugly black texture which cut a lot of road detail. I'd rather race on the bumper/hood cam. While is not as good as the driver's view, it's better for me in that case. 

Yup, for GT5 Polyphony Digital created a new engine to play the game. Although the standard cars are HD imports from the PS2 and PSP games, the Premium cars were built on a different system all together.

For Forza 4, although most of the engine that Forza 2 was based on has since been rebuilt or scrapped, Turn 10 had a model to work with for 6 years. As a larger company, that easily translates to over 10 years (12 years if you base it off man-hours in dev time) of dev time for Forza 4, compared to GT5's 5 years. It shows.

As for buying a 360....this late into the console gen, if you get one, just get the Arcade model. On Black Friday/Boxing Day/Whatever sales holiday you have in your country, they drop down to $130 (they did last year). I though about replacing my PS3, but I'm waiting for a BC PS4 now instead (will borrow a friends system for UC3)

For GT PSP, I needed that in car view, and I don't mind the blacked out interrior. For GT5, I will have to wait and see. Spec 2.0 isn't release in NA yet is it? It's just the physics on being in a car is so much different the out of car view. I hated Rally events in GT5 because of the lack of in car view.

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I don't think Spec 2.0 was released in NA yet, it was delayed. For Rally events I mainly used one car only, the Lancia Delta HF Integrale. Properly tuned, it could take on pretty much every other rally car, plus since it was a premium I always used the in-car view too. It's a shame that some of the best Rally cars are standards though, like the Stratos, the RS200, the Corolla, the Celica, etc.



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osamanobama on 24 October 2011
Nsanity said:
darklich13 said:
ethomaz said:

Michael-5 said:

Those cars you showed were the ones which at best matched Forza 2 and PGR3 quality. Most standard cars in GT5 look like they came straight from GT4, but are shown in higher resolution.

ethomaz. Your trolling now. Your trying to insult a game you never played by insulting the graphics. IGN and Gametrailers said that the cars in Forza 4 look on par or better then the premium cars in GT5. Unless you are implying that the standard cars look the same as the premium cars, your being a troll.

I'm not trolling... the GT5's Punto standard car is on pair with Forza 4's Punto.

The premium on GT5 is way better than Forza 4's cars... no comparision here.

You said so yourself, you haven't played Forza 4. So how would you know if The premium on GT5 is way better than Forza 4's cars.  I have played GT5 2.0 and Forza 4 extensivly. 

The cars in Forza 4 are on par with the premium cars in GT5.

Incoming bro fist!

so i take you have played GT5...

No, you say... so wouldnt that make you what do you call it... a hypocrite