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What's your status?

Buddhist 1 0.66%
 
Christian 31 20.53%
 
Muslim 18 11.92%
 
Hindu 2 1.32%
 
Sikh 2 1.32%
 
Rastafarian 0 0%
 
Pastarian 1 0.66%
 
Jewish 1 0.66%
 
Atheist/Agnostic/Freethinker 85 56.29%
 
Other (please say below) 10 6.62%
 
Total:151

there is only one true god in this world, it has different names though. some call it dollar, some call it euro, etc...



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5. Resident Evil VII
4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
3. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
2. Horizon Zero Dawn
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ghettoglamour said:
there is only one true god in this world, it has different names though. some call it dollar, some call it euro, etc...

Oh you!



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I'm a non-militant atheist. I don't mind speaking up when people are trying to push their religion down my throat. However, I do get annoyed at other atheists that try to push their (lack thereof) religion in other people's throats.

For "God," if I go by the definition of their being an entity that can break natural laws - I would lean on the side that he / she doesn't exist. If there is enough evidence to come to a conclusion that he / she does exist - I'm open to that possibility. So maybe I'm 75% Atheist and 25% Agnostic. As of now, I don't see enough evidence of the existence of a god(s).

I was raised Christian (my parents were liberal Christians that didn't believe in any of the supernatural stuff in the Bible). I do think Jesus has lots of important things to say how we should treat each other. Unfortunately, many of the conservative Christians that I know put the Sermon on the Mount speech secondary to all the other stuff about going to hell / women's place in society, etc.



"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."  --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials 

 

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I admire the poll idea, I have not bothered to read the other pages of replies as I don't care to see if this situation has spiralled out of control. But fact is this topic and thread has been produced a half dozen times over the years. In fact every few months another thread is created asking the very same question. Not to bash the OP but their is no origionality in this topic it has been done to death and often leads to conflict. I just don't see the point in creating any more of these in the future!



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"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

Rath said:
Jumpin said:

The poll has agnostic and atheism listed as the same thing. This is not true at all.

An Atheist is one who asserts that no God exists,

An Agnostic is one who doesn't assert that a God or Gods exist, and doesn't assert that they don't exist either.

These are two very differing viewpoints.


Also, there is a gigantic variety among Christian beliefs. Without getting into too much detail, while Liberal Christians and Conservative Christian denominations use the same scriptures, their beliefs are very different.

The Liberal camp takes the bible and take the beliefs as metaphorical. Some believe that there was never a human Jesus, and that he was wholey a spiritual being written about by the early mystics who experienced Jesus and the word of God (the logos). They also believe that much of the imagery (born of a virgin), including his titles (saviour, the son of God, Lord etc...) were part of the political rebellion of the time since these were all myths and titles associated with the Roman Emperors* Julius Caesar and Octavian Augustus.

The Conservative camp believes the bible is historical fact, and that not only was Jesus historical, but that he was born of a virgin, rose from the dead, and performed miracles.

These are two different religions that happen to use the same scripture. I would guess Liberal Christian thought is more prevelant in Europe, and Conservative Christian thought more so in the US.



* Many contemporary historians like to incorrectly place Augustus as the first Roman Emperor, but the historians of the Roman Empire (such as Plutarch and Suetonius) always placed Julius Caesar at the first of that Imperial line, and also consider Sulla to have been an Emperor. To the Romans, the title "Imperator" was "Emperor", but to many contemporary historians they require both "Imperator" and "Princeps" - although title Princeps is really not important, and it is often heavily overstated by certain camps of contemporary historians. It was more or less just a title of dignity. Many Emperors did not even include the title "Princeps" in their list of titles; including most Emperors after the reign of Diocletian, including Constantine.

I kind of disagree with your definitions. An atheist is somebody who does not believe in any god. An agnostic is somebody who believes it is impossible to prove or disprove God.

You're right that they're two different things, but they're not mutually exclusive. (Neither is agnosticism/theism actually)

An atheist doesn't believe it's possible to prove or disprove God. Only an idiot does, as it's impossible to 100% prove or disprove the existance of God.

The easiest definition is: atheist believes there is no God, agnostic has no belief either way; he just doesn't know what to believe (ie doubt).



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Chrizum said:

An atheist doesn't believe it's possible to prove or disprove God. Only an idiot does, as it's impossible to 100% prove or disprove the existance of God.

The easiest definition is: atheist believes there is no God, agnostic has no belief either way; he just doesn't know what to believe (ie doubt).


Easiest maybe, but not the correct definition.

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agnostic

Pronunciation:/agˈnɒstɪk/

noun

a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.

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It's really completely seperate from the belief in god. It's certainly not just being unsure of the existence of god - agnosticism can be quite a strongly held position.



Rath said:
Chrizum said:
 

An atheist doesn't believe it's possible to prove or disprove God. Only an idiot does, as it's impossible to 100% prove or disprove the existance of God.

The easiest definition is: atheist believes there is no God, agnostic has no belief either way; he just doesn't know what to believe (ie doubt).


Easiest maybe, but not the correct definition.

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agnostic

Pronunciation:/agˈnɒstɪk/

noun

a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.

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It's really completely seperate from the belief in god. It's certainly not just being unsure of the existence of god - agnosticism can be quite a strongly held position.

I agree my definition is not 100% correct, but most people calling themselves an agnost just don't know if they believe in God or not. Whereas Atheists don't say that it's possible to disprove the existance of God, they just say God does not exist.



Joelcool7 said:

I admire the poll idea, I have not bothered to read the other pages of replies as I don't care to see if this situation has spiralled out of control. But fact is this topic and thread has been produced a half dozen times over the years. In fact every few months another thread is created asking the very same question. Not to bash the OP but their is no origionality in this topic it has been done to death and often leads to conflict. I just don't see the point in creating any more of these in the future!

Oh I know it's nothing new, and it's not meant to be a thread where people debate. I did this quick poll because I wanted to see what a poll like this would look like in a gaming community. Threads similar to  this have been done before, but the ones I've seen didn't have the same reasoning behind mine, it's mainly christians and atheists debating. I just wanted to know how much variety I'd see in a gaming community basically. 




I went with freethinker. I was raised catholic, but my parents never took me to church, but still told me to pray and have some faith. Once I grew and during my years in a christian school, I took a strong dislike of religion in general. I was pretty much forced to read the bible and remember verses and forced to go to church. They would fail me for the entire year if I didn't pass or cooperated, even if I got all 100/A on my other classes o_o I shit you not. This was not in the U.S. by the way. Years later, I think for myself, I believe and pray for myself, not sure if it makes sense :D I don't hate religious people, honestly, I'd like to understand all religions, to show everybody that we are all the same, doesn't matter who our "god" is or isn't. It's easy to coexist if you're willing to understand.

Sorry for rambling, I felt like sharing :)



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Areym said:
I went with freethinker. I was raised catholic, but my parents never took me to church, but still told me to pray and have some faith. Once I grew and during my years in a christian school, I took a strong dislike of religion in general. I was pretty much forced to read the bible and remember verses and forced to go to church. They would fail me for the entire year if I didn't pass or cooperated, even if I got all 100/A on my other classes o_o I shit you not. This was not in the U.S. by the way. Years later, I think for myself, I believe and pray for myself, not sure if it makes sense :D I don't hate religious people, honestly, I'd like to understand all religions, to show everybody that we are all the same, doesn't matter who our "god" is or isn't. It's easy to coexist if you're willing to understand.

Sorry for rambling, I felt like sharing :)


I can confirm that, I attended a Christian school till Grade 9 and was expected to pass Bible class in order to advance to further grades. Fact is it wasn't that difficult to pass all you needed was 50% attendance alone gave me like 20% and the rest was easy to make. I didn't need to memorize every verse to pass the course just one a month or so (There was a verse each week assigned) then do the homework and show an understanding of the Bible and woolah you passed.

In fact I don't know anyone who actually failed Bible. I did come very close once but still managed a 60% or so by the end of the year.

I also don't think its stupid. Christian School is a private education system that educates students the way the parents want their children educated. A Christian School needs to educate its students in Biblical theology and the Bible itself. All other religious schools teach their students the religious beliefs the school is aligned with.

As for going to church I assume you mean chapel? At my school we had chapel once a week. It was essentially church but was a large part of the education process. It taught you about Christian culture and how church actually operates. Not to mention you'd get out of a block from another course and it was definitely better then being in a boring Math class (I hated math).

I'm glad you don't hate Christian's or religious people. Being a free thinker is great at one point I abandoned my faith and looked for truth elsewhere as well. I don't see anyone looking to find their faith as being stupid or bad.

But I think Christian school does play a very big role in understanding your faith. Every Christian should attend Bible Class either in school or college or even a Church lead course. Simply because too many Christians have absolutely no clue about their faith more then half don't even pick up Bibles.

Not to mention the public school system at least in Canada is very anti-religious. At my last highschool I couldn't even pray publically or have a Bible group. At my prior Traditional School I had a Bible group a group of Christians who would meet at lunch to read the Bible and talk about God. But at my last school we had to meet secretly if at all because praying in classrooms was forbidden and the school would not authorize an official group.

So why should a Christian parent send their student to a public school system that will impose their anti-religious views on the student? It is pretty much religious persecution at public school. Your taught only Atheistic theology and aren't allowed to freely express your religious beliefs.

I did get warned once at lunch time because I was in my class folded my hands and prayed for my meal. My teacher told me that I was being disrespectful to those that didn't believe in my God. He said it was inappropriate for the classroom and that I should pray in my head or somewhere that it wouldn't offend other students.

Thats the kind of bull shit that happens in the public system. If it isn't happening in your public system it will very soon. I admire any parent that sends their child to a Christian school, at least at Christian school one can express their beliefs freely. In fact Evolution is taught in Christian schools in Canada as well giving students a less biased education. The students actually learn there are more then just one theory of how the earth was created.

I think people of all religious back grounds should be able to receive an education that meets their values and allows them to freely practice their beliefs. The public system is a joke and anybody who can afford to send their children to a private school should do so, public schools pump out moron's who believe everything they learn in science class with no knowledge of facts to support their beliefs or knowledge of other religions beliefs. Not to mention at my Christian School I had already learned almost everything I would learn in Public School through Grade 12. I knew all of the Science and all of the Social Studies , Geography etc....etc... I had failed math but everything I learn't about I had already been taught to a degree. The only real stuff I learn't about in Public school was technology related and politically related.



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer