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richardhutnik said:
Ssenkahdavic said:

I dont get it.  When I got out of school and couldnt find a career, I worked at the damn bookstore for $8.50 an hour until I found a well paying job.  It would have been more demeaning for me NOT to work, than to work for barely over minimum wage.  

One thing that can happen, with individuals who say have an advanced degree, is they go to work at a convenience store or book store, the person whio sees them with their degree will feel they are overqualified, and not hire them.  Things like that do happen.  It is life.

I had that happen to me too.  The first place I saw that was hiring (about the same salary) was looking for people in school and did not want me.  They have every right to not want me.  Was I happy about it? of course not, but I still kept looking and found a job.  Of course it happens, but to let that keep you from continuing to look is ridicoulous. 



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Ssenkahdavic said:
richardhutnik said:
Ssenkahdavic said:

I dont get it.  When I got out of school and couldnt find a career, I worked at the damn bookstore for $8.50 an hour until I found a well paying job.  It would have been more demeaning for me NOT to work, than to work for barely over minimum wage.  

One thing that can happen, with individuals who say have an advanced degree, is they go to work at a convenience store or book store, the person whio sees them with their degree will feel they are overqualified, and not hire them.  Things like that do happen.  It is life.

I had that happen to me too.  The first place I saw that was hiring (about the same salary) was looking for people in school and did not want me.  They have every right to not want me.  Was I happy about it? of course not, but I still kept looking and found a job.  Of course it happens, but to let that keep you from continuing to look is ridicoulous. 

Life is far more like backgammon than it is chess.  Some people like to operate under an operational belief that somehow, they can make every single right decision and hit the jackpot.  Things happen.  People can be in the wrong place at the wrong time.  But, there is still the demand to keep on trying.  A rule of luck is, the more you try, the more chances you take, and the more likely you are to find something.  Of course, one can also benefit from improving one's odds.  On the job front, that is done by improving skills, improving references, and improving one's network of who they know.  Still, nothing is guaranteed, even if you do that.



HappySqurriel said:
richardhutnik said:
And one more thing. It is a shame that the Occupy Movement can't score properly on the style scale, complete with leadership driving it, and it providing a 10 step program that everyone can agree to, which would lead the world into a perpetual state of prosperity.


The entire movement is full of people who don't seem to understand why it would be a bad idea to take on tens of thousands of dollars in debt to get a "useless" degree, and are completely unable pay for their needs after they have bought their designer clothes and fancy gadgets ...

In other words, what does anyone in this movement know about being successful or providing prosperity for anyone (including themselves)?

Err... Russell Simmons...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russell-simmons-joins-occupy-wall-street-movement/2011/10/10/gIQAV0BDbL_video.html

 

Net worth of Russell Simmons?  Around half a billion dollars, and he is now part of the movement.  Do you want to go more into what Russell Simmons has done to help people and employ people?





Kantor said:
sapphi_snake said:
Vertigo-X said:
*facepalms*

Maybe that guy in the end doesn't realize it, but there is a distinct line between a Republic, which is what the US is, and a Democracy.

*facepalm*

You're another one of those people who has no ideea what those two terms mean (and that they're not mutually exclusive, as they refer to different aspects of a state).

A democracy gives full control of the country and its laws and policy to the majority.

A republic guarantees certain fundamental rights regardless of the opinion of the majority.

The USA is a republic.

*facepalm*

Another one.



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Rath said:
osamanobama said:
Vertigo-X said:
*facepalms*

Maybe that guy in the end doesn't realize it, but there is a distinct line between a Republic, which is what the US is, and a Democracy.

i was just about to say this.

also its unfortunate that their trainers havent taught these parots any new lines. they always just regurgatate the same thing over and over again, most of them probably dont even know why they are on wallstreet right now


Republic and democracy describe different aspects of government. Being a republic simply means your are not a monarchy, being a democracy means that your government is elected. America is both a republic and a democracy.

This! I don't see why people find this distinction so hard to grasp. Granted, I could see why conservatives in the US (who are part of the REPUBLICan party) would have in interest in such intellectual dishonesty (their opponent is the DEMOCRAT party, and I assume this sillyness gives them the illusion that they're more 'legit').



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

richardhutnik said:
HappySqurriel said:
richardhutnik said:
And one more thing. It is a shame that the Occupy Movement can't score properly on the style scale, complete with leadership driving it, and it providing a 10 step program that everyone can agree to, which would lead the world into a perpetual state of prosperity.


The entire movement is full of people who don't seem to understand why it would be a bad idea to take on tens of thousands of dollars in debt to get a "useless" degree, and are completely unable pay for their needs after they have bought their designer clothes and fancy gadgets ...

In other words, what does anyone in this movement know about being successful or providing prosperity for anyone (including themselves)?

Err... Russell Simmons...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russell-simmons-joins-occupy-wall-street-movement/2011/10/10/gIQAV0BDbL_video.html

 

Net worth of Russell Simmons?  Around half a billion dollars, and he is now part of the movement.  Do you want to go more into what Russell Simmons has done to help people and employ people?


Such a broad array of supporters from successful entrepreneurs ... One guy from the entertainment industry, who built his business through his close relationships with other entertainers and selling himself (and his friends) by appealing to those who feel disaffected

 

 

Oh wait, I'm sure this guy knows a lot about building a successful business:



 

Paul said:
Kasz216 said:
Laurel Aitken said:
Kantor said:
sapphi_snake said:
Vertigo-X said:
*facepalms*

Maybe that guy in the end doesn't realize it, but there is a distinct line between a Republic, which is what the US is, and a Democracy.

*facepalm*

You're another one of those people who has no ideea what those two terms mean (and that they're not mutually exclusive, as they refer to different aspects of a state).

A democracy gives full control of the country and its laws and policy to the majority.

A republic guarantees certain fundamental rights regardless of the opinion of the majority.

The USA is a republic.


And what is a democratic republic?

As sapphi_snake said, they aren't mutually exclusive.

A republic with an unneeded prefix.

Well that or a government that holds rigged elections but pretends to be democratic... ala East Germany.

 

Republics protect minorities.  Democracies don't.  In a Democracy if 50.1% of the country wants something... it gets it no matter what.

If this isn't the case.... it's  republic.

There is no inbetween.  It's purely analog.

Canada has a charter of rights and freedoms that guarantees individual's rights but I have never heard it referred to as a republic.

And the ony time the United states is called a Republic is in the pledge of allegence.

Democracy is just a better buzz word because Republic makes people think of ancient rome.



richardhutnik said:
thranx said:
i am suprised we haven't had an anti-occupy wallstreet protest yet.

Ideologically, people opposed to the Occupy movemenet are in the Tea Party.  They are angry at governments, not the market.  As for going down there to support the current banking and financial markets, that received bailouts, who do you know who would do this, create an pro-investment banker or hedge fund manager cheerleader group?

Congressional Democrats?

Outside which, these people aren't protesting them.

They seem to be protesting EVERYONE who's rich.  They are planning marches to rich peoples homes.  They're just anti anyone being successful.

Really Obama's "Job Czar" and CEO of GE puts it best when he says "I want you to root for me, everbody in Germany roots for Sehmans, everybody in Japan roots for Toshiba, everybody in china roots for China South rail,  I want you to say Win GE."


They essentially want to create jobs by taking down US companies.

Which, me, I want to make money by NOT going to work, but that's not very feasable.

I mean, it'd bring the income disparity closer together, but only because we'd all be relativly much more poor.



sapphi_snake said:
Kantor said:
sapphi_snake said:
Vertigo-X said:
*facepalms*

Maybe that guy in the end doesn't realize it, but there is a distinct line between a Republic, which is what the US is, and a Democracy.

*facepalm*

You're another one of those people who has no ideea what those two terms mean (and that they're not mutually exclusive, as they refer to different aspects of a state).

A democracy gives full control of the country and its laws and policy to the majority.

A republic guarantees certain fundamental rights regardless of the opinion of the majority.

The USA is a republic.

*facepalm*

Another one.

He's right though...

The founding fathers for example SPECIFICALLY chose to have a Republic over a Democracy... and wrote actural reasoning for it.

For example, James Madison.

"There are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion, or some illicit advantage, or misled by the artful misrepresentations of interested men, may call for measures which they themselves will afterwards be most ready to lament and condemn. In these critical moments, how salutary will be the interference of some temperate and respectable body of citizens, in order to check the misguided career and to suspend the blow meditated by the people against themselves, until reason, justice and truth can regain their authority over the public mind."