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You know, this thread made me realize that I haven't seen shio for a while. He would have been here already wouldn't he?

OT, I was just waiting for something like this to be said by him, 'specially after what happened to the PC ver. of Rage. Guess it's ok to shit where you sleep, since you ain't gonna sleep there anymore.



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Chrizum said:

Why does she look like she's got no nipples? Or did you misplace them?



VGKing said:
It's about time he admitted it. These days it doesn't make sense to release a PC-exclusive or develop multiplatform titles with PC as the lead.(just look at Battlefied 3s messy beta on consoles)

No, PC gaming isn't dead but consoles take priority now. In the future there will be less and less PC-exclusive devs. I"m just waiting for Blizzard to make the jump.....

Have you noticed that at the same time as PC exclusives have been becoming more rare, so have console exclusives? It's becoming harder and harder to find any kind of exclusives, not just PC exclusives.



Andrespetmonkey said:

Good! 

Not exactly the best (or mature) way to debate. You can just say you hate PC gaming and be done with it.



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blunty51 said:
You know, this thread made me realize that I haven't seen shio for a while. He would have been here already wouldn't he?

OT, I was just waiting for something like this to be said by him, 'specially after what happened to the PC ver. of Rage. Guess it's ok to shit where you sleep, since you ain't gonna sleep there anymore.

this was just full of win. OT this guy makes alot of sense, but platform exclusives are all going away period, PC or otherwise, im all for it.



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Galaki said:
I think he's late, iPad/iPhone supposedly already killing console gaming.

Anyone with a working brain will realise...*insert sensible words here*...buttons.



RolStoppable said:
PC gaming certainly isn't as important as it used to be. Just look at how many former developers of AAA PC titles have moved over to consoles and prioritize the console versions nowadays. This would have been unthinkable just five years ago.

The only reason why this works is because there are more PC gamers with low standards than one would have expected. They settled with either one of the HD consoles and are happy with it while the PC gamers with high standards continue to laugh at the console gaming community like it has always been.

I seem to remember that I made quite a negative comment in one of your comic threads long ago... I just want to apologize, cause I'm enjoying your comments and definitely becoming a fan.




OCTOBER 7th 2011
In an interview to PC Gamer, John Carmack said, "When we started on the game six years ago, I looked at the consoles and said ‘These are as good as the PCs that we're on here’, and our development strategy was set up such that we basically developed live on all the platforms there. And now when we’re looking at PCs that have ten times the horsepower of the consoles... I’m making a large change in my direction, just saying ‘We should be focusing on building things efficiently on the PC and [then] deploying on to consoles.’ And we didn’t make that as crisp of a distinction as we should have."

Carmack further explain how that will change going forward, "My development system now has twenty-four threads and twenty-four gigs of memory, and we can start putting on half a terabyte of solid state drives, and these are the things that are gonna drive the development process on the PC. So, I’m actually as excited about how we’re developing tht titles in this coming generation as the graphics enhancements and things that I’m gonna make."

http://www.gamepur.com/news/5668-carmack-developing-rage-consoles-was-big-mistake.html


No offense, but OP is too young to really understand how PC gaming has been dying for 20+ years and yet still brings in tons of money for devs like Activision and the casual companies. WoW is the only reason Acti is doing half as well as they seem to.

People that dismiss PC gaming are by and large young, anti-casual, and dismissive of female gamers who fuel the PC market. When you include gamers that arn't in the "hardcore" demographic PC gaming is larger than console gaming.



http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/97705-pc-gaming-vs-consoles-the-infographic


But just like the Wii, casuals don't count right?

I will agree though that typical "hardcore" (hate that word) gaming is stagnant on the PC. Not really dying, but certainly it is a small peice of the PC gaming pie.



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Not suprising considering the consoles he considers consoles are actually PCs.



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averyblund said:


OCTOBER 7th 2011
In an interview to PC Gamer, John Carmack said, "When we started on the game six years ago, I looked at the consoles and said ‘These are as good as the PCs that we're on here’, and our development strategy was set up such that we basically developed live on all the platforms there. And now when we’re looking at PCs that have ten times the horsepower of the consoles... I’m making a large change in my direction, just saying ‘We should be focusing on building things efficiently on the PC and [then] deploying on to consoles.’ And we didn’t make that as crisp of a distinction as we should have."

Carmack further explain how that will change going forward, "My development system now has twenty-four threads and twenty-four gigs of memory, and we can start putting on half a terabyte of solid state drives, and these are the things that are gonna drive the development process on the PC. So, I’m actually as excited about how we’re developing tht titles in this coming generation as the graphics enhancements and things that I’m gonna make."

http://www.gamepur.com/news/5668-carmack-developing-rage-consoles-was-big-mistake.html


No offense, but OP is too young to really understand how PC gaming has been dying for 20+ years and yet still brings in tons of money for devs like Activision and the casual companies. WoW is the only reason Acti is doing half as well as they seem to.

People that dismiss PC gaming are by and large young, anti-casual, and dismissive of female gamers who fuel the PC market. When you include gamers that arn't in the "hardcore" demographic PC gaming is larger than console gaming.



http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/97705-pc-gaming-vs-consoles-the-infographic


But just like the Wii, casuals don't count right?

I will agree though that typical "hardcore" (hate that word) gaming is stagnant on the PC. Not really dying, but certainly it is a small peice of the PC gaming pie.

talk about cherry picking



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