When I say Dance Central is a quality game, it's getting scores above 8/10. It's a well made game. Something like Carnival Games was probably developed by a small studio, and gets scores of 5/10. Dunno any other Kinect/Move exclusive (not w/ ___ support) which scores above 8/10. Dance Central is just as good as Just Dance, which is near the wuality of Guitar Hero. It's a good game. score? above an 8/10? game+kinect+move so far = shovleware. score means little to me even if i disagree.

Your not a betting man? Discussion over... i think your not being fair lol. finaly i said i think lol.

Nah. :P there i go not thinking again lol

I think MS made the map pack exclusive deal with Activision in light os few hardcore, non Kinect exclusives. They realize people stick with XB for online gaming, and this only generate good publicity. Who is to say it didn't help HW and SW sales? Maybe sales would have been much lower without it. Maybe it's those 5 million first week sales which are most affected by it. good point but i doubt it. they likely did it to entice playstation and other perspective buyers to get a 360 so they could have the DLC 1 month before there comp. its the we get it first factor.

Don't multi-coloured PS3 come the week after, Halo week? Didn't we both agree it's a toss up that week? How am I presenting a one sided opinion for Multi-colour week? We have the same opinion. MW3 week is a different story. i did not say you were presenting a one sided opinion. i was saying i present 1m or more perspectives. now your just reading to much into things lol. i have no idea when either MW3 or the multicolor consoles come out. i'm just presenting an argument. well yea MW3 comes out this wk but i know nothing other then that the consoles are multicolored and now i here the U.S. will get the white ones.

Halo CEA pre-ordering almost on par with ODST, but I think it will have better legs because of the price. It's a remake, not the type of game you pre-order. good point, but i'm still not sure about a major hardware boost but i admit it will be interesting to see what Halo:CEA does first wk. the legs may be just as good considering its the first one and the 360 owners that bought Reach and have no idea where the franchise started may be interested enough to buy it, and the preorders are over 500k with FW looking to be over 800k so not quite Halo reach numbers but well enough. it seems theres more games coming out the i expected like the MG collection so this wk continues to get interresting.

My point for Halo wasn't about sales, it was about franchise image. Your right Halo hasn't been too inventive (neither has Zelda, common, who are you kidding), and the Story in Halo 3 and Reach heavily depend on the initial story told in Halo 1. Most Halo fans don't care for story because they haven't played the original game which brought light onto most of the enemies, characters and game mechanics. Halo CEA could bring in new fans, and really help with brand image. wow i agreed before i read, but yea i can see that. Zelda was inventive?

d) Halo is the best rated FPS of all time (one of my favorite too, but I'm a Metroid Prime guy) hey i'm a guy to lol! i like guns and the game that has the best is the one that win me over. seriously its about the way the game is presented from. KZ doesn't have enough gun verity but the halgast assult rifle with the red scope is one of the 3 i like in that game but KZ doesn't have enough sifi for me, but vanquishh is more my speed yet it doesn't have enough sifi for me. and before you ask halo doesn't have enough sifi for me. i like innovative guns and Insomniac with Resistance fits my taste and comes close. i love innovative weapons but in todays sifi shooters i just don't see them, but i could get lost in R3.

Anyway. You have an open view of the market, but so do I. Just because I think 360 will sell more units on BF and MW3 week doesn't mean I don't. The rest of the fall is a toss up, but I'm more inclined to say 360 will outsell PS3 a bit (probably not by much), just because of the hostory of the consoles. history? history! you better have something better then history when you quote me. just kidding but i don't like the use of history. its just like the aligned launch thing. its presenting something that doesn't exsistice which is one reason why i'm against using the use of history repeating its self cause while it has it also hasn't. althoguh COD has been a better seller on the 360 since this gen begain its gotten bigger every yr. since so history in a sense hasn't repeated its self.

BO - "Post Gears, there is more competition on 360, so it makes sense PS3's BO sales are less hindered." This is why BO sells better on PS3 post September. That bundle helped it a bit 2 months before Gears 3 released, for about a month. That one month in between, BO just did better, had a good month on PS3, simple. BO might have stronger legs on PS3, but if it does it's only because 360 has more popular online exclusives to break those legs and make them shorter. (Gears and Halo far outsell Killzone and Resistance, and have a much bigger online community). For the first 6-9 months, CoD has stronger legs on the green side of the console war (logo is green). 

meh i like pie. makes sense i supose. BO will continue to do well or atlease be in the top 50 until 2012 Jan. i'm sure.

I'll argue for Dance Central being a quality title. It's the only game I see which utalizes Kinect well. I look at Dance Central no differently then I do Guitar Hero, which are both casual games, but at least they are good. ok i'll admit i like neither.

Kinect Sports, Sports Champions, Kinect Joy Ride, and the other games on the list...shovelware. every Wii game that looks like the ones you mentioed for the other 2 system is shovleware.

Wait I'll also argue Seaseme Street and Kinectimals are excellent games for those under 5. also shovleware. are you making a new argument? this reminds me of butty and the beast.

For CoD DLC exclusivity, you agree with me then? i think we agree with each other if you agree with me.

Multicoloured PS3's are coming to the US? If this happened last year, I may have replaced my PS3 right away. Still going to wait on a PS4, I know it's not too far away now. so far to my knowleged only the white is coming. i'd wait for a PS4 aswell unless ta PS3 hits $199-$179. i know you want to be my PSN friend so we can domonate the world.

I also dunno if Halo will be a major hardware boost. I don't think it will, it will just lessen the drop post MW3. However I think the game will do the franchise good. Reach raised new questions for Halo 1, which I don't remember the answers to. I would like to replay Halo 1 now anyway, and the added map packs for Halo Reach is a nice bonus too. agreed.

For Resistance, I'm the opposite. I don't care for weapon types, just want a couple funs ones. I car more about how fun the gameplay is, and enemy variation. So Gears 3 and Vanquish were awesome for me, and so was Halo 1 and Metroid Prime 1. yea i love them all an be shocked cause as one of vgc's i wouldn't say biggest ninty fans i have yet to play a Metroid game.

BO...Well right now it looks like BO and MW3 will be the only PS3 games to top 10 million :P Clearly the users are growing to love CoD more then the exclusives on both systems. yea i'm not sure how to react to this reality. it seems Americas got a nice boost this wk for 360 it will be interesting to see what happens in the EMEAA. even with UC3 released which i think needs an adjustment up 360 could take the first wk of Nov. in a wk PS3 should have won so right now it looks like the tables have turned. we likely have 2 days to wait and find out but it will be interesting to see.