First of all i was just putting out some suggestions of a proposed scenario that could happen. I wasnt claiming that the 360 will absolutely outsell the ps2 in americas, i was just trying to show you that its not crazy and that it has a chance, even though its a slight chance. Maybe you think this is my prediction or something but its not. I really havnt given the topic much thought. Other than the above post.

Id like to see xbox doin even remotely close to ps2's numbers in its 11th year

i was merely pointing out that the ps2 is in its true final years now, its really not gonna be long before Sony pulls ps2 in americas.

so you think it will sell 5-6 million in next 1.5 months ONLY IN AMERICA ??? That's some serious ddelusion right there

360 is at 33.8 mil atm, i said it could end up with 38 - 39.So that would put the numbers at 4 - 5 this year as a POSSIBILITY, NOT 5 - 6. Maths failure? Again not my prediction but a possible scenario. 4mil is a reasonable amount if MS has some sort of plan.

You can't possibly think that's possible, do you now. 7 million in america only in its 7th year with all the hype about next gen?

Again a rough estimation, but 360 will have another strong year next year thats for sure, unless something drastic happens to slow their momentum.

That's a lot of ''ifs'' and best case scenarios there .Not really much to go on.

Well it was precisely my point to put a best case scenario out ther. After all a best case scenrio is stil a scenario. And obviously im using "ifs" i dont have a FUCKING crystal ball.

PS2 is seriously undertracked here btw

This is silly. I was using vgchartz data.

I believe it is. It is wrong to assume a console can sell almost 100% of its LTD sales in its last years...

Again its not 100% your maths is off again. Lets say 360 ends up with 37 mil at the end of this year. (selling 3 mil from now til end of year). It would need to sell 20mil to pass ps2 (if ps2 is at +57mil). Now lets do the maths. -----does maths calculations in a few seconds cos im not a retard----- It would need to sell 54% of its LTD sales.

Even if we use the exact LTD sales as of this very moment the number is stil not even close to 100%. Its more around the 70% mark.

You need to do two things:

1. learn to do basic math calculations.

2. and ease the fuck up theres really no need for using bold and underlining.

I wasnt even making a prediction! Just saying its not a crazy statement.

okay let's compare

2010

OCT 9th   PS3: 237,892    360: 181,320

OCT 16th   PS3: 243,828   360: 171,372

OCT 23rd   PS3: 253,279   360: 176,618

OCT 30th   PS3: 283,793   360: 213,045

NOV 6th   PS3 313,465   360: 360,822   <--- Kinect Debut week

NOV 13th   PS3 378,898   360: 520,893   <---Black Ops Debut week (huge 360 hardware boost)

NOV 20th   PS3: 345,757   360: 453,942

NOV 27th   PS3: 765,116   360: 885,353   <--- Gran Turismo 5 Debut week

DEC 4th   PS3: 619,455   360: 665,244

DEC 11th   PS3:696,487   360: 771,313

DEC 18th   PS3: 897,211   360: 1,060,849

DEC 25th   PS3: 931,958   360: 1,114,283

2011

now Nov 5th 2011 is basically already confirmed to be taken by ps3

Nov 12th will be dominated by 360 due to MW3 but im not sure if it will be as big of a difference between ps3 and 360 like when black ops released because 360 was already ahead by a little less than 50k the previous week due to 360 slim+ $500 MILL advertised Kinect launch

Nov 19th should still be taken by 360 riding the small MW3 wave

but im not sure about the other 6 weeks because 360 does not have a slim 360 this year, no price cut (YET but it's just about too late for 1 to make a difference now), no $500 mill launch of kinect like last year and no new big kinect games to do anything relevant for it this holiday season(aka kinect wont be as big as it was last year)

but i guess we will have to see what happens

EDIT: idk how to do those little charts and i also did not read through the whole thread so sorry ahead of time if somebody already compared holiday 2010 to 2011

Makes sense to me.  If I remember correctly MS didn't only say they'd be number one this year but they also said they'd do it without changing the RRP, which means they must be relying on bundles.  However at this point the trends and game releases indicate we should see something similar to last year, which would then play out as you describe.

Unless MS have something hidden away that will have to be revealed pretty soon (a crazy cheap bundle they will vendor fund for example) I think you're probably pretty close with this view to what will happen.

GTAV X360 Exclusive confirmed?

Maybe that's their plan for 2012!

I wouldn't be surprised if its true since money makes the world go round

why dont just acquire take-two?

Ok, your the one who needs to ''ease the fuck up''

No im pretty sure its you who needs to ease up. Calling people delusional, acting like stuff im saying makes no sense, having an absolute response for every point i bring up even when i disprove your complete bullshit?? yeah, its not me that needs to ease up.

You know, PSP has a ''slight'' chance of outselling PS1, doesn't mean that prediction isnt kinda delusional.

The psp has no chance of outselling the ps1.

Sony said they're gonna support PS2 as long as it sells aroun the world, and seeing as how ps2 is incredibly cheap to manufacture and how well is it selling in 3rd world countries, it should stay on market for 2-3 more years i would say

We are talking specifically about one region...and its been selling badly in that region, its expected, its in its final years.

Maths failure? LMAO, i only rounded up the numbers, but its funny how you call someone up on something insignificant as that, shows how strong you believe in your arguments.4 million is more possible than 5 or 6 but still highly unlikely.

You ruonded up? what exactly did you round up to get 5 - 6 million? Maths failure is maths failure. Again its not my prediction but whatever. Its precisely comments like this, that just shows your immaturitiy.

Strong year? Why? Because 5th or 6th halo will get released? Or price cut on already cheap console that already hit its massive market price? I really fail to see how xbox's next year is gonna be ''strong ''

Any reasonable person can see both 360 and ps3 will have a strong year next year.

Best case scenario is rarely the most reasonable one.Doesnt make this prediction much more credible.

Wow you so missed the point on that one.

Yeah, vgchartz has PS2 seriously undertracked here, and by that i mean undertracked by 20 million last time i checked, they could have fixed it by now, im not sure

Like i said i was using Vgchartz data for americas.

I was somehow under the impression xbox was at 29 or 29 million in America, I apologize

Even so the % sales of 360 LTD sales needed is NOT 100%. Im pretty sure you took that number straight out of your ass. Apology not accepted.

need to lear basic math calculations? Alright dude, calm down, I didn't mean to insult you by rounding up the numbers

Dude you made up random numbers to make your point seem more viable and correct....and was agressive about it! I have zero respect for people who do this. Atleast i had the decency to check out the numbers first.

Wow, you see bold and underlining as some form of agression and you tell me to ease the fuck up? Priceless

This was just a joke. -_-